Talk:Kakine Teitoku/@comment-24007030-20140728023821/@comment-5230978-20140819181847

Mikoto gained a forced power up, she wouldnt gain all the same parts as the original (accel), like the sisters who have the same ability but weaker (they cant do mikoto did (magnetic powers), does this mean they are not electromasters? (The same can be applied to mikotos powers in her awakening and accels)),

It's different. The gap between Mikoto and the Sister is about their abilities. Awakened Accel's abilities aren't Dark Matter. You are comparing an attack with a thing which is part of the awakening, this is the basic difference you seems unable to get.

since mikotos 'awakening' was forced she simply gained a portion of the originals feats, she isnt near accel or kakine because she simply had a 'fake' power, but this doesnt change the type of ability, it can still be DM...

Transformed Mikoto power being fake is nothing but a convenient invention if yours. Even if the power up was forced you have no proof that her power was fake. Incomplete, of course, but not fake. And we don't even know if Mikoto can power-up like that without an external method.

Btw, the white wings could be different than DM, Vol.22 said that even the substance which created the wings changed -_-"

The author used the word "essence" which can also be referred to the nature of a thing. That part seemed to be referring more to the positive nature of the white wings than to an actual change of the material composition, exactly like Accel's inner change. Also the the wings having Dark Matter is a clear connection between Accel and Kakine so it's doubtfull this connection disappeared with the change of the wings.

No he cant, accels vector control was never powered up, he only aß able to use his esper abilitys like always, this is the only difference...

From vol 20:

" Something in Accelerator’s heart shattered.

The black wings on his back, the symbol of "Evil", kept growing.

It would come to a halt soon, like a dying flame with its fuel spent, for his heart, the source of his negative emotions, had lost its core.

''Just at that moment, a convoy driving past appeared in his line of sight. There were several large vehicles moving along in the snow. Judging from the level of technology of those vehicles, they didn't appear to originate from Academy City, but he couldn't rule out the possibility that it might be Academy City's forces disguised as Russia's.''

''If he was his normal self, he would have observed intently, considering the possibility that they might be from the dark side. But the current Accelerator, his will lost, couldn't be bothered. He wouldn't have cared even if he was shot.''

However, the empty shell that was once his heart, shook.

All because of the face of one person, whom he chanced upon in one of the vehicles.

''It was the face of the guy who had defeated him back in Academy City’s train switchyard - the one who stopped the "Experiment", permanently froze the Level 6 Shift project, and saved 10,000 Sisters. He would step up to help those in need whenever he could. No matter how despairing any situation was, he would still reach his hand out to those who had nowhere left to go. That was the kind of guy he was.''

He should still be in Academy City.

Why is he in Russia?

And that Hero, who was completely different to the apathetic #1 of Academy City, the one who could lift people out of their pits of despair,

How could he pass by without realizing Last Order's pain, who was so close to him?

''Unknowingly, Accelerator let out a mighty roar, and directed the vectors of a large boulder buried under the snow to the end of the vehicle. Like a balloon, the end burst open, and the convoy stopped. He knew how unreasonable he was, to ask that person to do something which he had given up.'' "

And, the simple fact that mikoto was about to reach lvl6 (and used a black unknown matter) and that accel is about to reach lvl6 (and used a black unknown matter) should be clear enough,

We know tha matter of Accel wings but we don't know the matter of the black sphere. This should be even clearer. Dark Matter is not the only unkown material to science, for example Accel's invisible and unexplainable power (compared to that DM is more understable enough, at least to be used for manufacturing weapons, the Equ. Dark Matters). Mikoto presented a halo in her last form so she had, at least in part, angelic characteristics like Accel and just like him she could have an unexplainable power not based on DM.

i dont know why you deny that so strongly, of course they have different powers, accel is the one who had the potential to reach that lvl (original)since birth and mikoto was forced (clone)...

What I don't know is why you are denying... no, ignoring all the differences between the black sphere and the documented Dark Matter and focusing only on vague similiarities and speculation-based speculations. As I said, it's still possible that the sphere was formed by Dark Matter, but with the actual informations and all the differences it's not so likely to be and certaily it's not the sole possibility. Also, transformed Mikoto being a clone of an awakened Level 5 is nothing but another invented speculation of yours.

Kakines DM wings started to grow and glow, his DM-wings, and DM is bound to AIM, therefore: kakines awakened wings are also made out of AIM and DM ^_^

You didn't undestand my question at all. There's no reference about the AIM making Dark Matter or any other material bigger and glowing. And again, DM could be bound to AIM, but you can't say it is. Try to use more canon material than speculations when do you have enough of it.