Talk:Kamijou Touma/@comment-66.87.121.174-20131212185938/@comment-17714224-20140107200748

''"Being the refence point of the world isn't synonym of divine nature. For what I remember the only on that thought IB was a holy hand was Fiamma and Aleister implied that IB wasn't what Fiamma believed to be. Again, where was it stated? Give me a citation." ''

That's correct, they talk about IB more than once some parts of the LN's talk about what it does and its purpose other parts give suggestion on its origin which are two differnt subjects and doesn't make them synonymous and as I said before they had only hinted at the idea that IB is divine in origin but those suggestions are still enough think about.

Unfortenately I dont currently have the time or ability to reread everything to point out each of the individual pieces of passages throughout the series to give an exact citation I am not using a specific passage from a specific volume I am using bits and pieces of information, suggested implacation and so on spread thru out the series I was building a theory from a colmination of information not stating a fact, please keep those seperate. If it was an absalute fact then it would be on the page itself and not the comments. Quite frankly taking considerideration for the style of writing and how it works in this series, I personally, don't take anything at face value, even actual forms of exposition have been shown to be questionable later on with more on the matter coming to light but that doesn't mean we shouldn't think on it, question it, and theorize with it.

I'm sorry if that came off rude, no I can't name an exact passage but other pages on this wiki have also stated that it had been suggested in the LN's that IB may have been divine in origin. but rather or not it was divine origin was besides the point and not the question. The question was assuming that IB was, would that be an implacation that it was actually god who gave it to him, and if so what would that mean?