Talk:Othinus/@comment-121.6.108.99-20140816165043/@comment-25093611-20140910080717

@lowell

''Don't even try. You may have not used the exact same words, but you thought that IT/dragon was a stronger IB and that it negated Aureolus' memory, you thought that IB negated Sherry'a pastel and Sotzy's knife believing they were normal objects, and even after I explained you they weren't supernatural things you insisted. ''

your misunderstanding doesnt equal to "me not knowing the limits of IB"

''Maybe perfect is the wrong word. I mean that she reached both 100% positive and 100% negative possibilities (like a 200% Majin), so it's hard to beleive that she didn't reached her limits. The new Majins are stronger, but only because there are characters of the same species of Othinus and stronger than her it doesn't mean that she has the potential to reach thier level and become like them. It's the same thing for Level 5s and Saints. Not everyone is born with the same potential. ''

didnt they mention that could have reached their level if she didnt fall for her human side?

''Ahem, IB is not even mentioned. And you misread that part. When Othinus says "You have a way of somehow escaping dangerous situations brought about by external factors." it means the dangerous situations are brought by external factors and not the way of escaping these situations. That's why Othinus decided to let Touma commit suicide. Even if infinitely small, there would still be a chance for him to survive threats caused by external factors thanks to his skills and/or allies and/or accidental events.''

the part you bolded has nothing to do with this, you mentioned it yourself: survive threats caused by external factors thanks to his skills and/or allies and/or accidental events.

skills like dodging are his precognition (which also existed in vol.1 before touma met index, he negated mikotos electricity with little to no harm), so, the "developed through fighting"-part is nonsense (btw, (i think) it was accel and birdways speculations, which means that the "word of god" didnt state anything like that...

allies which are simply there because they are needed (doesnt matter how small the chance is),

and accidential events (which are always happen to toumas favor but this shouldnt be the case, where is the 'misfortune'?)