Talk:Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Volume 07/@comment-128.12.95.13-20130523080218/@comment-7263151-20130603164535

Fine, fine...

After re-reading Mikoto's wings weren't the same. But then again, Kakine's wings in Volume 7 of NT weren't awakened wings either. He did awaken in Volume 13 against Accelerator though for real when he had black wings. He lost the core of his power (evil) when he switched over to wanting to protect Fremea like Accelerator temporarily got weak in Russia when he lost his ideals, so this is why he couldn't transform this time. Mikoto's wings are different. I'm just hoping she can get super wings. No one actually said it was impossible. If Mikoto used the power of Exterior I'm sure she could get wings. From recent developments in the latest manga chapters, people are generally assuming that Exterior lets Shokuhou or whoever else is using it, access the power of the Misaka Network. In that case, Misaka using the power of the Sisters network would make her a lot stronger. I mean the Sisters Network gives Accelerator half of his old power when he turns his choker on which is a lot of power that could probably make her stronger in some influential way. This is of course speculation. I'm just saying the possiblity is open. I'm saying it is't true that there is no way she will never get wings just because she has no epithet to God in her name. Seeing that Index got wings and knowing that fans will get very angry at Kamachi if he doesn't develop one of the most popular characters in his series, Misaka Mikoto, and instead let INDEX get wings, he might make Mikoto stronger eventually.

In terms of Kakine being the spare plan and being able to achieve what Accelerator did: this I will not back off on. What you said didn't actually make sense there. Sure, I said Kakine was the spare plan because he was the less-favorable, less-strong option. I'm saying Kakine Teitoku could still probably become an Angel as well if he absolute needed to if Accelerator died, which is why he is the spare plan (a back-up plan in case something happens to Accelerator (he revolts/dies)). He wouldn't have God as an epithet part of his name and wouldn't even be a spare plan if he couldn't fill Accelerator's role. A spare tire is supposed to be able to replace the job of a malfunctioning tire and work CORRECTLY. You might have misunderstood what I was trying to say here.

Second, let me clarify the other part of my theory:

You are saying it might be a problem if Kakine recombines. That could be true. However, what about this scenario? Right now the Kiharas are trying to make Rikou a level 5. If she became a level 5, she could easily give the split of "evil" kakine to seize control of the Network once again. In this case, this Kakine would not want to relinquish his importance because he would be the carrier of Aiwass which would make him more important, so he would just create more things in his network. If Rikou were under the control of AC, she would not be able to independently force the Kakine's to break out and seize control of the network again. This could be a large problem for everyone involved. I'm speculating... not writing a fan-fiction. I don't write fan-fiction. If I write, I try to write actual fiction. :D

Aiwass is certainly important to Aleister Crowley's plans. I think the point Aleister Crowley was making instead was that he is going to become more immortal than Aiwass at some point somehow and will surpass him in power. Aiwass is of course still a part of his plan. Otherwise, Aleister Crowley wouldn't have worked so hard to resummon Aiwass back to the world. In real life, Aleister Crowley is a real person and he used Aiwass as his personal adviser. On this wiki it also explains that Aiwass taught Aleister Crowley about the most powerful new forms of magic and led him to perform crazy magic experiments in order to communicate more with Aiwass. Aleister Crowley was able to thus create a space that overlapped between heaven and hell.

It is furthermore hinted that Aleister Crowley is trying to make everyone on Earth artificial angels through some crazy manner. Also, concerning Aiwass he is obviously coming back to earth again eventually because he is a large part of Crowley's plans.

Now suppose the situation came about where a level 5 Rikou was under the control of Dark AC, she uses her power to split up Kakine Teitoku, the dark Kakine Teikou comes out, Rikou uses her power on the dark Kakine Teitoku, Aiwass is stored in this new Kakine Teitoku. In this case, we have a near indestructible Aiwass and a Rikou that can produce pretty much any Esper power and take away pretty much any esper power from any esper.

As long as the primary consciousness of Kakine Teitoku contains Aiwass, Aiwass will never disappear even if Kakine Teitoku comes back together because the primary consciousness is still a main part of Kakine Teitoku even when all the other parts are jumbled together. He would just be confined to a small space in where he can appear. However, if Kakine Teitoku is threatened with the prospect of Rikou removing his power then he would obey AC's commands. Likewise, Rikou could take Teitoku's ability and do this herself. The reason I bring up Rikou is because she's next on the list of Kihara Yuiitsu's plans. Agitate Halation was Platinum and Takitsubou Rikou was Gold respectively in terms of importance. (Foreshadowing)

I see your point slightly that it would be a problem if he were confined though... It is also possible that Aiwass could be brought into something like Exterior if Exterior is still existant somewhere in the future. Even though this case is unlikely, the will of the Misaka network might actually be Exterior. :p This is speculation though because Exterior is probably destroyed/saved/released at the end of the Daihasesai arc.

I think when talking about the trinity: he means he wants to make them all have very powerful abilities and make them do a particular ritual together eventually that causes some crazy distortion in the world which has to do with him using IB to seal a particular phase which is mentioned on this wiki's theory about Aleister Crowley's plan page.

About the level 5's working together. I think Touma, Hamazura, and Accelerator can respectively connect all of the level 5's and have them work together if necessary, if things go really really wrong, later on. I think people in the different groups are slowly getting closer to each other or at least will become friendly with each other. For example, we know Mikoto and Gunha are at least on friendly terms. Mikoto and Misaki are obviously at least on Frenemy terms. Misaki and the #6 are on friendly terms (she hints that she has some connection to the #6 when she says that #6 who was there was a fake. Mikoto, Misaki would also do anything for Touma which could make at least three of the level 5's work together if Touma really needed it in the most crazy circumstance (most likely). Accelerator, Touma, and Hamazura are obviously friends and this is reinforced once again this volume with their time together. Accelerator can mobilize Mugino, himself, and maybe Kakine (otherwise Touma might be able to mobilize Kakine after this volume, or Hamazura might be able to if necessary because of Fremea). Hamazura can mobilize Mugino who has a kind of yandere crush on him still even if he is with Rikou. That's #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #7 and maybe #6 accounted for in terms of will fight on the side of the main heroes (Touma, Accelerator, Hamazura) if necessary. This shows that the cohesion between these level 5's is increasing albeit even if it is happening very slowly. Mikoto doesn't have to forgive #1 or #4, she just has to do what Touma asks her to do. Same in Accelerator or Hamazura making Mugino listen case. See what I'm saying? Obviously, the level 5's would all put up individual struggles and annoy Hamazura, Accelerator, and Shiage respectively. But each of these guys has their own Harem/Circle of friends that they can mobilize if they have to. The fact that these three guys are becoming better friends is slowly increasing the cohesion of all of the level 5's. I was just noting this. This trend has been happening ever so slowly. Originally all of these groups were separate, but their "leaders" are pretty decent friends which will eventually probably bring them together. Just not yet.

I don't think that Aiwass relies on having so many other Sisters in the network to appear. Remember the Sisters arc project was stopped early. Aleister Crowley was fine with letting it go on a little longer anyway. He didn't plan on Touma stopping it when he did. I think if there only a few parts of Kakine Teitoku, the range of where Aiwass can go is limited, but as long as the primary consciousness never gets rid of Aiwass through Index's song or some other crazy way, then I'm sure Aiwass would never actually re-treat anywhere. Also, Rikou wouldn't let this happen anyway (most likely) if she were being manipulated by Academy City. AC would be able to manipulated Rikou by keeping Hamazura as a hostage because they don't even really care about Hamazura and would like to get rid of Hamazura. They might also try to control Rikou some other way, i.e. by using the method that Kihara Yuiitsu inputted her intellectual curiosity into Yakumi Hisako through the results she found from the Dark May Project.

Also, about Aiwass: Crowley wants Aiwass there until he doesn't need him anymore. By controlling Kakine, Rikou he could keep Aiwass there until when necessary and then get rid of Aiwass. Aleister Crowley could probably easily defeat Kakine Teitoku if he tried to/needed to (partly because he would have control of Rikou).

The reason I am kind of just assuming Rikou is going to get controlled and turned into a level 5 at some point is because all of Kihara Yuiitsu's "little projects" have had nasty results so far that completed at least part of their original goals. So I feel like Rikou will turn into a level 5 eventually probably for this reason. It has been foreshadowed that something like this will be a huge problem. Rikou having the ability that she does have and the fact that she is Hamazura's girlfriend is enough of a reason to explain to explain why he would be an important main character. (he found about the parameter list and is preventing her from being used by the dark side to turn into a level 5 that could be manipulated by Academy City). Agitate Halation happened right after Kihara Yuiitsu called it and it only messed up because Yakumi Hisako couldn't contain it well enough (from Yuiitsu's words). If Kihara Noukan gets actively involved in this next project with Rikou, things could go very badly because Kihara Noukan seems much more capable than Kihara Yuiitsu of doing successful evil deeds (in my opinion from the way he talks, from the way he acts, from the way he is described, from the fact that he is a dog that is a Kihara for crying out loud).

Considering all of these different factors just coming into play recently and furthermore considering that these were developed individually in the last 3 volumes: it makes me somewhat feel like these things might became important later in terms of Crowley's new plans. I think Agitate Halation is most likely a teaser as to what Aleister Crowley's real plan is.

Think about it:

The end result of this plan was to make a being that exceeds a regular AIM thought being. In Aleister Crowley's case he is trying to do something with Aiwass and he is trying to affect all humans in the earth (or something like this by making them Artificial angels and getting rid of all magic). This would be accomplished by first doing some similar ceremony within Academy city, with Touma Kamijou as the main pawn. All of his friends/allies will surround him who is already the center because of Imagine Breaker (just like Fremea is). Then he would use Accelerator, Kazakiri, and Last order in some way... I don't know what yet... but it would involve being able to calculate some god-derived calculations that Aiwass probably told Aleister but that he can't figure out... Then Aleister would use Imagine Breaker, or the thing sealed within Imagine Breaker to fix the phase of the space and the AIM that would be contained just in Academy city would spread around the entire world and this would affect magicians and prevent them from using any magic. Aleister Crowley would use Touma's Imagine Breaker maybe to remain unaffected by this magic somehow. Then he would basically be able to travel anywhere in the world he wanted whenever... I'm not sure what would happen from there, but I believe it involves the fact that at this point he would somehow acquire powers surpassing Aiwass's... or something else. He might be trying to bring back to life his wife and daughter? This is of course all speculation, but it feels like at least some of this might be true because of the things he tells Fiamma in volume 22, because of the things that are true about the real Aleister Crowley (in real life), because of stuff posted on the Toaru wiki page here. This last part about his real plan: I think I understand a part of his plan. I'm pretty sure it involves Touma manipulating AIM fields and him being the center of everything in some way. I'm just not sure.

I am curious though as to why Touma affects only 98% of Aleister Crowley's plans. Have we really seen anything he's done since he said this that hasn't been affected by Touma in some way?... This makes me wonder a little... Anyway, I just gave you a ton of speculation. You can call it fanfiction: I prefer to call it thinking of what might happen in advance and thinking about everything that's going on so that I might be able to think in advance of some drastic things that might happen to the plot.

Anyway, you brought up a lot of good points. I probably didn't answer all of them, but this post is way way too long already. We could more on my actual talk page later on when I fix my theory and once we get more information on the status of Rikou becoming a level 5.