User talk:TheGreatEye

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Toaru Majutsu no Index Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User:TheGreatEye page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Herald of meridian (Talk) 09:57, March 26, 2010

re:Monaco.css logo picture
I will try to do as many as I can, but I need to find good transparent PNGs or other cut outs of each character.

For some reason the logo hasn't updated for me (even though I've done a force refresh), I assume you can see it though.

Headline text

 * --Sxerks 14:13, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats great news, and yes, I can see the logo...TheGreatEye 14:31, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

The logo should be neutral with only the tittle of the site like the other wikia sites, also the with changes done it doesn't redirects to the main page anymore--Lero 16:59, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

GIFS
Hey dude, I think I already asked Miridian this, but i'm trying to get everyone's opinion. What do you think about certain images being replaced by gifs? such as tree diagram being destroyed or Touma dispelling an ability? I got told that each article only needs a single gif each, so are there any in particular that you would wanna see?

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 * Animated gifs are most appopriate if they are to replace scenes were a lot of action is to take place, when a single frame is not enough to fully grasp an action. Such as Mikoto firing a more powerful version of her Railgun, Touma dispelling an attack (more specifically the second time Touma dispelled Stiyl's fire attack, you know the one from episode 2, where the screen freezes for a moment before Touma closes his hand), how Kaori applies her Nanasen, etc., I think you understand what I'm trying to say here.---TheGreatEye 19:29, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. No worries then. Me, who else? 19:43, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. No worries then. Me, who else? 19:43, September 6, 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes
moved to Forum:Infoboxes

I have no idea
Believe me, I was adding info about the current arc in the anime when a message about editing conflict appeared, then I checked and there was no info the page and my real editing where gone.Lero 16:23, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

If there is no harm done then...---TheGreatEye 16:47, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Increasing Number of articles
Moved to Forum:Increasing_Number_of_articles

re: template
You can use this page: Template:Sandbox and view what it looks like at the top of this page: Toaru_Majutsu_no_Index_Wiki:Sandbox
 * --Sxerks 19:37, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks for the tip.---TheGreatEye 04:31, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

About those booklets
I've finally uploaded them, you can take a look at them yourself and see if there are any of them useful for the wiki... you can find them here: http://www.mediafire.com/raildex_bdbooklets - Avegaille 12:50, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, will edit articles when time allows.---TheGreatEye 12:56, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

General Cleanup
Yo TheGreatEye! I just gave you both Bureaucrat and Admin status. I think you're worthy judging from your contributions and I hope that you continue your good work! :D With that said, I'd like to ask some help from you regarding some details I have been ignoring since I have become the administrator of the Toaru Majutsu no Index wiki. I have worked on the Manual of Style, however, I feel kinda stumped as to which things to touch up on. Any ideas on what to shove in the MoS?

Also, I have noticed that users from 4chan (I know, I know, it's 4chan, but there are also fans of Index there) still do not see our wiki as a viable source of info. I feel like they are challenging us to improve our content, and your tagging of articles is a good start. I wish that there are more contributors who are highly knowledgeable with the Light Novels (like 4chan's js06) who drop by and contribute, though.

Anyway, congrats to our newest administrator and keep up the good work!

heraldofmeridian♣ 01:33, February 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Indeed, as is the reason why I started making these templates, to alert people that an article still requires work. There is a notable quantity of work before us, before we can be truly trustworthy to the masses.---TheGreatEye 02:35, February 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Good luck to all of us. heraldofmeridian♣ 02:43, February 20, 2011 (UTC)

No, no..
It should be "Welcome Back", i'm AcceleratorLastOrder xD IppoTsuko 13:43, February 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * Acknowledged.---TheGreatEye 13:51, February 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wikia Anime on Twitter
Hello, I'm Kate from the Wikia Content team. We are trying to create a WikiaAnime Twitter group, where all of the amazing wikis can come together and share their most exciting information, and hopefully get a lot of new users! To join, all you need to do is post this Twitter button and tweet list on your main page.



Then you can visit the Anime Twitter Suggestions Page and post tweets you'd like to see, with links back to your wiki.

Please share this with your other members and admins and see if it's something they'd be interested in joining! Let me know if you have any questions, and we hope to see you there!

Kate.moon 01:03, March 2, 2011 (UTC)

Highlight of battles
Do you think we could create a page in chronological order of the biggest battles in Academy City? (EX: Skirmish amongst level 5s, and/or magicians) Nonus 00:04, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Why not, but I'd rather have the armed conflicts between 2-3 factions listed down in the entire series not just Academy City. Individual conflicts should be avoided unless it is well known enough in-universe such as the battle between Accelerator and Kakine Teitoku, wherein there were witnesses and was declared as a dangerous situation enough to warrant several Anti-Skill to intervene. ---TheGreatEye 10:14, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Since we want to keep it reasonably small, how about a table: two sides for each of the participants, date of battle, outcome and casualties (if any)? Nonus 18:01, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, add the location as well, also have a summary prepared for each battle. If a conflict is part of an even larger conflict, it should be cited as such. Use this link after the colon to start the page: Timeline of armed conflicts ---TheGreatEye 03:12, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have been looking at the story arcs of major battles and some of them, just from the infobox on them is kinda like what you and I are discussing. Any ideas on making it easier or a rough sketch of an idea? Nonus 18:50, June 1, 2011 (UTC)

Something like an amalgam of this and this.---TheGreatEye 08:34, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Light Novel Summary Articles
Hey TheGreatEye. I'll currently reading through Volume 15 and I noticed that while I'm filling up the volume article with summaries per chapter, the individual chapter article is still untouched and is practically empty. Should we go and add longer chapter summaries on each chapter article or just take them out and focus the summary on the volume article?

Here are some pros and cons to each side.
 * On chapter summary expansion, there's no need to take away a hundred or so articles and we can focus on each detail while summarizing it. However, this would require a longer period of time because I might have to re-summarize nine whole volumes of the light novels. We are also lacking a chapter infobox of sorts so we need to do that as well.
 * On volume article focus, we can create flawless articles that summarize the entire volume chapter by chapter without having to write a longer summary per chapter, thus the faster option of the two. What happens in this case is that we will need to delete the chapter summaries because we no longer need it in a sense. Plus, I notice that volume articles are already getting pretty long (in my opinion, though).

If you're available, please pitch in your ideas. After I finish working on Volume 15's summary, I'll try to plan for the next move. heraldofmeridian♣ 09:20, August 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I was wonder why you were putting all the summaries on the Volume pages, they were really only intended to direct people to the individual Chapters where a more detailed analysis would be located.--Sxerks 14:14, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * I just figured out that summaries were posted on the Volume articles, so I decided to fill the rest of the volumes with summaries. The individual chapter articles need sprucing up, by the way. heraldofmeridian♣ 14:44, August 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, can't help you with anything at the moment since I'm really busy in real life and the fact that I can only use the internet a couple of times a week now, among other problems. Currently, I can only edit a few smaller articles from time-to-time.---TheGreatEye 04:24, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Main Page Tweaks
Hola my name is Nic and I'm a of the Wikia Content Team. Just wanted to let you know that your main page needs tweaked so that the right hand column will display a 300x200 ad or a 300x600 ad depending on the situation. The rest of the main page will look as close to the original as possible, except some of the content will be slightly pushed down a little. Let's work together on this to get this issue resolved. - Wagnike2 17:26, October 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Talk to either User:Sxerks or User:Herald_of_meridian regarding this matter---TheGreatEye 07:05, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your work
Thank you for your work on improving the pages I posted recently. I'm not very skilled at editing but, I have seceded in getting the ball rolling on those pages and appreciate your help bringing them up to standers.

Serenely, Silent Psycho Gamer 06:42, January 17, 2012 (UTC)Silent Psycho Gamer


 * I too found it difficult to wikify my works at first, but with a little hardwork and a little googling, I have managed to amend that. I suggest you focus on copy-editing and proofreadin your works first before posting/pasting it on article, there are some grammar problems that require repair. Keep up with the work.---TheGreatEye 09:40, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Featured article
Much better, I think. Both of them. Following the biggest online encyclopedia's standards would be a big pain in the ass. If you'd like, we can also make a page that would list the featured articles and the date when they are first featured (which is, of course, locked for edited to everyone that isn't an admin). It would require some backtracking, though. heraldofmeridian♣ 14:30, February 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * I have prepared for such an eventuality beforehand, keep sight on updates.---TheGreatEye 01:03, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Kihara Kagun
Hi, do you know how does "Kihara Kagun" writes in kanji?

Orimura 00:37, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

NT 4 Arc name
Can I suggest "Battle of Baggage City arc" as the name of the arc depicted in NT Volume 4? 12.161.9.17 15:12, March 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Too long, besides I do not make that call. Go to the imageboards or forums and ask what they'd call this volume.---TheGreatEye 00:33, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Character Art Designs
Hey, I'd just like to know where peopel get the "Character Art Designs" for almost all the characters. I've been searching the volumes and much more and can't find them. Sorry for the question. Will 12:03, May 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * We take it from Haimura's website:Rainbow Spectrum Colors, for others, there are of course booklets from the anime, and as well as special pages or chapters dedicated for characters in the manga.---TheGreatEye 23:36, May 6, 2012 (UTC)

If its no problem, may I edit the Accelerator page extensively in order to provide more details to his chronology? Those who created and edited his page before me did an outstanding job but I noticed that there were areas that could be greatly expanded and more thorough details could be added in to the existing articles,

Example: The Three Stories Arc was the turning point of his life but the article, with due respect to the editor, is quite brief and lacking elaborate context.

I assure you that I will not include hypothesis, theories or assumptions. Only facts from the Light Novels will be included and I plan to use a narrative style in my editing crusade.

Professor P0wer 10:07, June 2, 2012 (UTC)Professor p0wer

Manga Pictures
Hey, I'm back again if you remember me. XD

With my holiday starting up, I'm going to have a lot of time and I saw your first page and I want to help out with the wikia. Before I start, are we allowed to put images from the manga (specifically Toaru Railgun, post Poltergeist arc) as pictures? I would help with the novels too, but they aren't my forte as I've only read the Index manga and seen the anime (up to date for both). I plan on reading the Light Novels on my holiday as well, so maybe I can help there, but for now it's out of the question. Will 02:49, June 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes you are allowed to post images from the manga. However, it's somehow a good idea to remove the text before uploading, as one can see in many wikis and here as well.---TheGreatEye 08:19, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Newbie
Uhhhh, I'm new here! So go easy on my edits, I didn't know bout the fanart BEING ILLEGAL.

Fictional 11:48, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Ummmm. Hey! I'm a fan of To Aru Majutsu No Index, reason y I joined here..... Mind showing me on how things work here? Thanks! Fictional 08:13, July 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * We start off with this:Click this.---TheGreatEye 09:27, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Question on contradiction
I'm currently rereading the light novels(have not actually read the light novels covered by the anime), but I stumbled upon the fact that Mikoto already knew of the existence of the clones from the very beginning (Volume 1:Prologue). I notice from all other reference material that she discovers the existence far later in both the manga version of railgun and anime of index...I'm not sure how they deal with it in the Light Novel, but the statement seems contradictory to other material and what's currently on the wikia.

It may be a translation issue, but the way its presented, it makes it seem like she accepts it as fact rather than a rumor.

Well, I just want to know your take on it, since you seem well-versed with how things go around here, and I'm not entirely familiar with the beginning of the light novel in the first place

MagisterMagi (talk) 10:41, August 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't know how this would seem that Mikoto accepted this as fact, she even states that it is a "rumor." Her conversation with Touma in the prologue has her talk about the military sisters as a "rumor," and uses it as an example of experiments being conducted by Academy City, whose purpose is not to reach the conclusion that people are "strange" (I assumed she meant "special"), or want to produce esper powers. But really, Index Volume 1 Prologue is a little cryptic to me.

It has been shown in the Index 12th Index episode that she knew about the rumors but simply ignored them. This scene was adapted from Toaru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Volume 03 Chapter 3 Part 1, when Mikoto is sulking in the bridge. It states in the novel, that as a Level 5, baseless rumors form around her all the time, and as such, did not believe the military sisters rumor.

Of course, by the next sentence, it states that Mikoto "may" have simply not want to believe the rumor. Implying that she thought it might actually be true, and kept denying it to herself. This is a literary technique ot add some emotion to her thoughts.

However, this does not mean that she "knew" in actuality that there were military sisters. One can believe about something without knowing the truth, a sort of illusion, pardon the pun, if you will.---TheGreatEye (talk) 12:59, August 2, 2012 (UTC)


 * I see, when they were talking about brain of god, i read it as Mikoto refering to it as propaganda by Academy City and she rebuts it by introducing what they are actually doing...,but i can see how this might have just been the author's foreshadowing of what he was planning

Errors, errors everywhere
Not only that, the layout for the userpages are currently screwed up as well. heraldofmeridian♣ 09:07, September 8, 2012 (UTC)


 * Hopefully, wikia has noticed this and are working on a fix.---TheGreatEye (talk) 09:12, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Leave of Absence
That's fine, real life always comes first anyway. :) Although I admit it would be quite a challenge to watch over the wiki in your absence — you contributed a lot, much more than I did over the past year or two. Hopefully, you'll still be able to visit the wiki once in a while. heraldofmeridian♣ 08:39, October 7, 2012 (UTC)

Questions about the Light Novels?
Hello, I was just curious as to how long it usually takes for a light novel to be translated and for its link of download to be placed up onto this wikia (on the Toaru Majutsu no Index English Translations.pdf files page). Also, how often do the volumes come out? Is it every few months?

Thanks for taking the time to read and answer these questions. Cnguy21 (talk) 07:35, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

RE:Upcoming Feature
Sure, go ahead. Have you already chosen which articles would be suitable for a feature? I may choose myself, but it's better if I know your own choices. heraldofmeridian♣ 09:00, October 31, 2012 (UTC)

RE:New Background
I find the new background to be too bright, lol. (But maybe it's because I'm in a lightless room with a bright monitor.) I hope there's a DVD-quality nighttime view of Academy City. It would be a better background. But the one you submitted ain't that bad tho. Oh, and just a suggestion: if you'd want more opinions on this, put up a poll on the front page and leave it there for a week or so. One week's worth of polls would probably be enough for us to decide on the background. heraldofmeridian♣ 09:06, November 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm laying off the polls for a moment and have it discussed here before using it. I'm thinking of revising what background should be screencapped from the anime, which would be preferable that it would come from Index II. However, I'd like input on what you think should be a good background for this, because that gradient has been with this wikia, and its unchanging nature, I feel, is a detriment to this wikia's advancement in regards with the community, including editors and readers.---TheGreatEye (talk) 17:48, November 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * The brown gradient was originally from the official project index website, and is really the only reason I added it. The css you are looking for is actually MediaWiki:Wikia.css, as monaco is the old theme. The links to all the theme related pages are accessible from the main page's talk page, you will see a link to Main Page and Site Layout Admin Links at the top of the page (it's just the main page "/Admin", something I have added to most wikis I admin). As for the image, it should come from a 1920x1080 source, I'll see what I can find.--Sxerks (talk) 18:46, November 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks for the heads up. Anyway, regarding the image I have uploaded, it is a stitched image from screenshots of the 1080p creditless release of the first opening theme of the second season. The image was edited via curves at my own discretion, because the quality of the image will certainly go down once I tried to conform it to wikia's image size limit for backgrounds (150kb). I believed this was a wise choice on my part. However, I am thinking of using a smaller resolution as per your recommendation. I am also thinking of changing the file if I deem it unsuitable for use in the wiki.---TheGreatEye (talk) 16:06, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * I removed the stuff in the css now because wikia finally has a "fixed" option in the theme designer, so everything can be done through it now. Here is a link to the background template (PSD file) to use to make a background. The one I put up was from S2 ep4 blueray. But now there is something to go by.--Sxerks (talk) 16:27, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Will be experimenting a little bit.---TheGreatEye (talk) 16:48, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

How about now, I admit that is kind of grainy, but I am open to suggestions. This is the best I could get from the screenshot of episode 06 of Index II, though modified it a bit so it would be "web compatible". Vector images? Quality fanart?---TheGreatEye (talk) 18:10, November 12, 2012 (UTC) Edit: Or should we go the way of Hamuira and make an abstract background?---TheGreatEye (talk) 18:13, November 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * As a background it doesn't really relate to the series, it's just buildings. The image is to large 149kb, doesn't need to be maxed out in file size. Scrolling is no good, the BG should be fixed.--Sxerks (talk) 18:18, November 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged, will remove scrolling. Background will remain as is until I get the proper resources for the new one. You can change it if you wish---TheGreatEye (talk) 02:02, November 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * I updated the link the background template above as it was a few pixels off. vector images of the main characters on top of a city background may be good.--Sxerks (talk) 07:05, November 13, 2012 (UTC)

Is it just me, or is the new background a bit too blurry? heraldofmeridian♣ 05:24, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * It is indeed blurry, since it is a resize of 720p screenshot of episode 06 of Index II. It would greatly hasten my progress if you have a 1080p version of it, though, I could also just use another background.---TheGreatEye (talk) 06:45, November 14, 2012 (UTC) Edit: What about now then? Tried to go the "Haimura way" regarding backgrounds.---TheGreatEye (talk) 07:16, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Gimme a timestamp of the previous one (one without the logos). It would be easy to get a 1080p through torrents. heraldofmeridian♣ 09:11, November 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Using MP-HC's screenshot function, this is the filename of the resulting screenshot:  [Coalgirls]_To_Aru_Majutsu_no_Index_II_06_(1280x720_Blu-Ray_FLAC)_[E4C08C92].mkv_snapshot_18.27_[2012.11.13_00.49.12]  Take note that Coalgirls separate the ED and OPs in individual files. Due to various reasons I can only make use of 720p videos.---TheGreatEye (talk) 10:59, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

It isn't looking as good as I expect it to be. Even with a 1080p screenshot, the buildings still look blurry, and anything that I try to sharpen the outlines only ruins the color. heraldofmeridian♣ 13:48, November 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll be putting this off until tomorrow, but how about this? I find the two logos flanking both the sides of the site quite unnerving, so I then realized that there is not a need for a constant background. How about a background that suits the times, such as now, NT5. We could have the Windowless Building from the anime be on the left and the NT testament logo on the right. I still have it back when you updated the site for NT1. The background should be changed when great changes are upon us, such as a you novel, or the movie coming out. What do you say?---TheGreatEye (talk) 15:49, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

Minor questions regarding Archive characters
Hello, I have a couple of minor questions concerning characters in the Archives.

Firstly, there is a character who appears in the Toaru Majutsu no Index Archives 2 Audio Drama - his article is currently titled Absolute Fortune Boy. However, a shopping site listing credits for the Archives 2 Audio Drama (tower.jp/item/tracks/2541362), and the Japanese Wikipedia entry for the Archives, call him the 'Green-haired boy' (his real name wasn't revealed in the audio drama) (there isn't an @wiki entry). Should the article be left with it's current name or renamed?

Secondly, I would like to ask about what should be done regarding listing the debuts of Archive-exclusive characters in the character infobox (there isn't an Audio or Game debut section at the moment). Should the debut section be left blank, should one of the other debut sections be used, or is it OK to add a new one?

Thanks

Inept Wiki User (talk) 17:30, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Helping Out
Hi! This wiki is looking great and seems to be doing well! I was just wondering if you would mind me doing some edits on the main page to organize it a bit better and break things up so that there isn't so much text. I'm really loving the wordmark that you already have, but how would you feel about a new skin? Let me know if you have issues or preferences for any of these things, thanks!

Grace 22:49, December 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * Apart from some partitioned sections, such as the lastest light novel one, the main page has always been open for edit by anyone. However, a great edit should at least have the blessings of other admins, for I too, after a long time, took great effort in convincing them in changing a few things. If you are using an adblock, you will not see the ads here, that we must take precaution too as it will ruin the layout.


 * I'd like to see a new skin, but I'm not the one who implemented the current scheme of the wiki, and I have no intention to since I am ignorant regarding those matters. Ask the other admins. If you're talking about the background, yes, I do think an improvement should be in order.


 * Here are the others: Click, though the only other one who frequents the wiki anymore is herald_of_meridian and Sxerks. The others, I'm afraid, are lost in time.---TheGreatEye (talk) 03:03, December 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've made a few changes, but feel free to edit or revert whatever you would like :) Grace 00:07, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hi there! I am always happy to take suggestions if you let me know ahead of time, and I will try to make another skin for you soon when I get the time :) The picture you linked me to isn't working unfortunately; do you have another source? Grace 18:01, December 20, 2012 (UTC)


 * It took a couple of tries but the skin has been changed to the picture that you gave me :) Grace 17:07, December 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've added the title as requested but there seems to be a cache issue so it might take some time to load. Here is the picture file for the background if you want to make changes yourself. Toaruskin.jpg Grace 19:42, December 21, 2012 (UTC)

Volumes Pages

volumes pages
Hi ...I made the Toaru Majutsu no Index Manga page ...And I'm sure we need one like it for the Novel and Railgun volumes ...I'm too beginner in Wiki Editing (I used so much time to know how to make those templates).

So please edit the templates as much as you want ,and add pages for Light Novel (I'm still at vol11) and Railgun (didn't start reading yet)

Ahmadmanga (talk) 06:43, December 22, 2012 (UTC)


 * Acknowledged.---TheGreatEye (talk) 09:39, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for Edits ,it looks Awesome Now !!

Ahmadmanga (talk) 14:38, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

New Navigation Template for LN Chapters
Hey, I have made a prototype template for a new layout for navigating through light novel chapters and volumes (see here). Thanks to the transcludesection thing that I just learned, we can be able to merge multiple templates with fixed content into one, although my template appears to have a problem with adding an extra line above the template itself. I have started it out with one volume, so could you check out the code before I could continue? I'm such a noob when it comes to wiki code. @_@ heraldofmeridian♣ 11:27, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I can't really determine how a piece of code is supposed to work until it is at least somewhat finished. Also, regarding this problem with adding an "extra line above the template" what does it mean? Can you give me a visual example of this, like an image?


 * As for the template, I'd rather have you use wiki links instead of the full urls when linking to a page in the wiki. For example: Prologue should be Prologue, which the wiki will display as Prologue. It is not really a major issue, just a minor pet peeve.---TheGreatEye (talk) 11:45, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, the links will be fixed soon. Meanwhile, here's where I tested how the template looks like: clicky. heraldofmeridian♣ 12:22, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Testing a bit. I found out that it is the inreconciable effect of having more than 1 tag in the page that is being transcluded. I thought of using the as is with the Hot News I have made quite a while back, but it seems that it does not allow tables to be put inside it. Perhaps you could make a separate template for the table of the light novel navigation, and then use it in the page itself inside the onlyincludes to bypass its apparent distaste for tables.---TheGreatEye (talk) 12:56, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * But that forces us to make more template pages, which I'm trying to avoid for less clutter. D: Well, if this is gonna happen, then it will be instead a nested template that is only there simplify the process of adding templates. What do you think? heraldofmeridian♣ 13:38, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've done such things in the past, when a solution could not be found. If you wish to solve this quickly, then, I think, this is the only viable solution for now. Redundant and obsolete templates can always be deleted.---TheGreatEye (talk) 14:12, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay then. I'll probably start making the navigation templates on each volume by tomorrow morning. heraldofmeridian♣ 14:38, December 26, 2012 (UTC)