Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-24680843-20141130015719/@comment-26030698-20150407213354

I, for similar reasons as Kamina's, disagree with your theory on the Dragons/IT being Lucifer/Fallen Angels or Telesma based. I do thank you though for bringing up that quote to this page, even if you made the wrong things bold. " In the values of the Christian Church, the dragon was the symbol of more than one thing. For example, it represented pagans and foreign invading forces. It also represented a fallen angel stained with evil. " Sure, they mentioned that the IB(and consequently the things it seals) can't be explained using Christianity, but if that isn't Kamachi's way of hinting "The IB literally can't be explained by Magic and Science, independent of how well you know both", I don't know what is.

Also, Birdway's explanation of how magic works supports this. According to her, magicians refine their mana and add incredibly complex and abstract cause-consequence rules to reality, which is the actual magical phenomenom (she doesn't phrase it like this, obviously). So she- and everyone else, is understandably freaked out when the IB doesn't destroy the actual supernatural phenomenom, the rules, it destroys the consequence.

To give an example, Styil claims to have, by modifying some already present systems and runes, set up a magic that can be roughly explained as "If someone sets up these rules in the are and does some chanting, a golem of fire named Innocentius appears". So if the Imagine Breaker destroyed the entirety of the supernatural, it wouldn't even be possible for such rules to exist with him in the vicinity. In fact, magic shouldn't even exist since the IB does.

But hey, different systems. What the IB recognizes as "unnatural" is completely different from what the magicians themselves do. So it's only reasonable that the something or someone should be able to directly create what the IB recognizes as supernatural. And it will be epic. If I'm not wrong, obviously. Probably am, really.