Talk:Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Volume 09/@comment-1460085-20140129172957/@comment-11571396-20140131200903

'''1. (...) then somehow that makes him capable of evading a blow at the speed of sound if not superior with power to demolish everything in one swing without getting ANY harm whatsoever?'''

Ha, see, that's what I meant, and I think that's what everyone here criticize you for: you are inconsistent, either by hypocrisy, by lying (consciously or not), or omitting/conveniently forgetting details. Now you know what you did? You just made stuff up, as nowhere is it stated that Othinus's attacks are at the speed of sound.

So you don't only nitpick, you are also blatantly creating reasons for you to feel right in your criticism?

'''2. Also the same is true when Othinus pulled the Crossbow, and here you have a giant contradiction, Touma "learned" her patterns, but then it was stated that he learned her patterns when "she used the lance" but not so when she used the "fairy spell" which caused him to get hit by the tenth blow, but then he evades the other 9? And if his instincts were so "sharp" how come the 10th arrow hit?'''

Hahaha, giant contradiction? What? This part of the fight is eerily similar to his fights against Leivinia and Freyja monsters, where Touma fights against multiplicity.

You should also note the first nine arrows are clearly baits from Othinus to position Touma to that very specific spot that he could not escape from the fatal tenth arrow.

This is especially obvious by the 9th arrow, where his movements has been totally restricted.

And, of course, you want him to evade an attack from an angle that would be impossible for any human brain to takle into consideration. Right, who calls his victories illogical again? You have to understand that it's like saying a soldier could see a bullet shot in his direction by transpercing an ennemy before him first.

'''3. Seriously the more you try to defend Touma, the more holes you will find, simply because Touma is FULL of holes, and wins only because he is Kamijou Touma, period.'''

Holes, might I remind you, you either see because you didn't read right, or outright lied about. Or, even, because you want to see them.

The only things full of holes is your criticism, and the more you continue, the more inconsistent your argument becomes.

It's highly entertaining, really.

4. Now if you perhaps stopped for a brief moment, and instead READ me, as you claim you read the novels, you would actually find and understand my reasonment instead of just trying to post whatever fanboyism thoughts cross your head around.

Wow, accusations of fanboyism, what brilliant point you made there, champ.

I will have you know that if it were fanboyism, I could have sticked to call you 'basher', 'hater', or insulted you like others did here, but know what? I didn't, because ad hominem doesn't prive the other wrong, just you. Why do you think I take the time to counterargue point by point? I could do something more worthwhile of my time.

I criticize your argument based on its own inconsistency and the bias of its author, not because of my personal feelings. Like I said to (LevenSeven?), some of us can argue about something using just the facts and not our personal feelings, don't'cha know?

5. I made a very simple and straightforward critic based on everything I know about Kamijou Touma.

No, you whined, and that's what everyone can see it as it is. Why I say that? Because I manage to counterargue your critic based on everything I know about Touma.

'''6. So here we have another contradiction, he was fighting for "himself" yet he tried to understand Othinus, so who was he fighting for, him or her? And then he fights for Othinus vs the world, the freaking entire world, ask yourselves how he's gonna fight "the world" all by himself and triumph.'''

We don't have another contradiction, we just have further proof that you either have no reading comprehension skills, or you didn't force yourself to understand.

He was fighting for himself, yes, but in doing so he slowly realized, not because that was his goal, no, but because he gradually reached that conclusion during the fight, ''that Othinus was also similar to him. ''How? She was fighting for herself, and she wanted to return to her world at the cost of another world's inhabitants' lives. Touma realized this battle was one between two individuals wanting the exact same thing. As such, of course, when he lost he accepted his defeat and accepted that Othinus would accomplish her dream, because he found nothing wrong in this wish that was the same as his.

So, back to his own world, he was also able to make the parallels between Othinus' situation and the worlds Alpha/Omega, where the world goes/would be forced to kill one person (the solution of world Alpha) in order to ensure peace (the logical conclusion of world Omega).Touma refuse to accept an happy world where everyone is at peace at the cost of one person's happiness.

He himself experienced so he knows how painful it is.

See The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas.

As for your question ow Touma would triumph, how the heck would we know? Can't you wait for the next volume like everyone else? Or are you determined to find 'plotholes' even in future/unpublished books just because you can? Is your Touma hateboner that big a deal?