Talk:Accelerator/@comment-184.91.216.71-20131114234843/@comment-5230978-20131117192712

No, Accel attacked Hamazura after he asked him to join force to save Fremea. After that Hamuzura thought if he could have used LO against Accel and Accel was intended to kill him only after that, so his attack was likely for one of the reasons I listed, because Hamazura wasn't an enemy or a threath for him before trying to target LO.

Accel stopped chasing for Touma in NT6 not in vol 20. It was stated. Reread it. He was surely more focused on himself than before, but a part of him was still chasing for Touma and he completely stopped only in NT6.

I know that Accel did things not because was forced but because he wanted to do them, that he didn't kill every enemies, even before becoming protagonist, and that he'll likely become an hero in the future, I never said nor thought the opposite, but for now the term anti-hero fits him better than that of hero. Even Motoharu said to him that he is in a grey zone. Accel is obviously more a good person the an evil one, but that's what an anti-hero is: a hero that is even willing to do bad things for the good. This is what Accel is.

Kakine original is alive. Accel killed only a body completely made of Dark Matter, not the very essence of the original Teitoku. Anyway, he was willing to kill him and thought he made it, like in vol 15. Even if Accel was intended to kill him only put an hand to him pain or something, the act of killing is always the act of killing, don't forget this. And Accel didn't said that Kakine was killed by himself but that he was stopped by himself. There is a huge difference. It was Accel that killed the Dark Matter body thinking it was the real Kakine. I don't undestrand why you are denying this clear and simple fact.

You said that Touma had the option of changing his enemies mind so he don't need to kill them, but this is nonsense. Touma is never sure if he will be able to change his enemy mind and he often don't even know if he was able to do it, so this is not an excuse to not kill. He normally won't kill at all. The only time he had killer intent was when the girl of the Misawa Cram School was killed in front of him (the only time he witnessed an innocent being killed), but he stopped before killing Aureolus Dummy. He also acted violently against the terrorist that almost killed Index, but he didn't killed him. He only showed a strong will to hurt, if not kill, someone when someone was killed in under his eyes and when a person he cares about was about to be killed, and even in these extreme situation he didn't kill. Your theory does not hold water.

For the line is only your interpretation, because Accel already showed will to not kill when it is not needed. And he was able to save without killing even before WW3.

I don't undestand what a comparison about Accel trying to kill Fraulein and Mikoto trying to save Touma ahve to do with this. When Fraulein attacked LO Accel simply reflected and it would have only hurted her, but after that he set the reflection to kill her (it would have been useless, but he obviously couldn't know it) and after that he kicked her metres away. His desire to kill was true. In the scene you are talking about, Mikoto didn't try to kill Accel to save Touma, but to allow Accel to kill her hoping that the experiments would stop, saving the Sisters and Touma.

I said that he didn't kill soldiers so that he could have obtained informations too. Your point?

Yes, he admitted he want to help people, but he wanted to do it even before, when he was a more cruel anti-hero. I think you are misunderstanding what an anti-hero really is.

It's clear as day that Accel didn't want to kill Worst. I mean, she is a Sisters, he didn't wanted to hurt her, let alone kill her. He attacked her only because considering the weight that LO and another Sisters had in his heart he choose LO. But the moment he made such a choice his mental breakdown already stared and it got worse the more he hurted Worst, but was able to temporary stop it and to save Worst.

Accel don't care about Mikoto, let alone her feelings, so why should he have avoided to kill when he was with her? He could have killed them, but it wasn't clear by an outside observer if they were dead or unconsious due to their uniforms (the same thing can be seen with some Hound Dogs). The first Trident member that Accel attacked in the Battle of Napali Coast got kicked by him and hit a vending machine, crushing it, so it's reasonable to assume he/she died and that the same thing happened to other members. Furthermore, Accel fought Trident in a shopping mall and when he saved Roseline alongside Leivinia before the battle on the coast. He reflected and kicked his enemies away, and considering he was about to kill the father of one of Saronia's hostage that tried to mureder Leivinia, for which he don't have any particolar affection, minutes before why would he not be willing to kill soldiers that put in danger the lifes of the innocents?

Now, stop saying Accel is not an anti-hero anymore only because he's more merciful, gentle and heroical than before, because there are anti-heroes that share these elements too but ares till anti-heroes. And stop saying he didn't killed and was unwilling to do it anymore after WW3 because it should be clear to you that it's untrue.