Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-3969505-20140830211054/@comment-5230978-20140904012645

Yeah, a superstrong big beam of light which could destroy a planet, you can call it cutting but touma did the same with IB in the gravito bomber arc. it wasas if his IB "vut" through the explosion while in fact he negated it.....

My, is it blindness or mere stubborness? The very novel says that a negating power was not enough to terrorize LPSaD Fiamma and IT is far stronger than him. Despite its strenght, for Fiamma's standard that attack was just used to obliterate what he considered nothing but a powerless mass of flesh, so it wasn't absolutely his strongest move. With something of that level, if the IT was a stronger IB, it would have negated it with ease. And IB is full of limits like for example attacks which are not immediately negated. Also, Touma can influence a supernatural attack's trajectory moving and positioning his right hand in certain ways (though in the graviton bomber's case it would have been a coincidence, but it wouldn't be the first time he makes something by chance).

Good, than the side story with the indian magicians, he touched a magical golden knife and it destroyed itself.....

Ok, now I'm absoltely sure that you don't pay attention to what you read, at least novels and comments. I'll rewrite what I told you in my previous post. Pay attention, please: "And don't forget that a lot of magicians have magical objects which look exactly like normal ones (the most recent example are Sasha's torture weapons, negated by Touma in NT10)." It's exactly the same for that knife.

''Here from this Wiki: Ars Magna (黄金練成 (アルス＝マグナ) Ōgon Rensei?, lit. Imbued Gold) is Latin for Great Work. It is the spell in which alchemist would achieve their goal of simulation of the world inside the mind. With Ars Magna, they can bring out thoughts into the real world, essentially, making those who can accurately simulate or mold the real world would be able to control it.''

And here there is another strong suit of yours, along with not paying attention the what you read: extrapolating only the part of text which is convenient for you (sometimes even decontextualizing it), ignoring the rest of the material. Here's the rest of the wiki article: "However, according to Stiyl, since alchemy is an unrefined knowledge, modeling the entirety of the world and its laws into a chant takes centuries even with the assistance of descendants and removing of unnecessary lines. Kamijou Touma deducted that this why the prospect of why actual existing vampires are sought after by the magic side, by both alchemists and normal magicians, since one can achieve to finish the chants of the level of Ars Magna if one is able to figure out vampire's immortality. Hence forth, no one has yet to achieve Ars Magna under the above means.

''Aureolus Izzard is the only person who has managed to achieve Ars Magna. '''By utilizing the Gregorian Chant Replica to chant the spell simultaneously, he was able to bypass the time required to chant the spell in only a mere seven days as well as increase its effects 120 times. In his use, the Ars Magna distort reality through his thoughts, and require a vast amount of concentration to accurately model a thought into reality with it'."

And here some extracts from the novel: " Stiyl folded his arms in front of his chest and said, “Thus, it’s important to have an ability to use the brain to accurately imagine the real world. Basically, with this power, one can control the world. Any gods or devils will bow down to that person.”

“...Hey.”

“'Of course, it is very difficult to do this. The flow of the river; the flow of clouds; the flow of humans, the flow of blood—there is a vast number of laws in the world. Amongst them, if even one of them is incorrect it would not be possible to produce a world in the head.' A distorted world is the same as a distorted pair of wings because they would immediately self-destruct and vanish.”

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“''Let me put it this way. '''If I want you to explain everything in the world, including every grain of sand on the beach or the stars in the night sky, how long are you going to take? I don’t think you can finish explaining after one or two hundred years, right?''

“…”

“'That’s the situation. The spell itself is completed. However, in order to complete the incantation a human’s lifespan is too short,” Stiyl continued as if spitting it out, “For that reason, it seems that they undertook various endeavors. For example, they tried shortening the spell' a little by omitting the unnecessary parts; dividing the hundred part spell into tens then continuing the spell from parent to child with each generation casting a little bit of the spell at a time.” "

Without using the the Gregorina Chant replica Aureolus can't correctly simulate the world in his mind. Again, the core is the gregorian chant, not his thought and certainly not the memory. A human can neither perfectly simulate nor remind the entire world with their brain.

above me you see that ars magna simulats the world inside the mind of the magician, this mans hsi memorys are the core of the spell, the students was part of the preparation to turn his memory into the spells medium so that he can use ars magna...

And above you will see that you are wrong. And even if the memory was the Ars Magna's core, it wasn't supernatural. Insisting would just a useless waste of time for both of us.