Talk:Imagine Breaker/@comment-173.166.15.157-20141215154056/@comment-5230978-20141217191104

We don't know for a fact that Imagine Breaker doesn't belong to the magical or scientific side I also stated that it can possibly be both that means it doesn't belong solely belong to the magical or scientific side

You couldn't be more wrong. It has been implied, stated, and shown that IB is neither magical nor scientifical throughout the entire series. You should reread the series with more attention because you are really confused.

my version of Psionics doesn't come from another anime, manga, TV show or comic book it's based purely off of science advanced science yes but science

You are still bringing a concept never mentioned or implied in the series. And you said "my version of Psionics", but Psionics is pseudoscientifical by definitions and here there are some of them: "Psionics is the alleged psychic effects of telepathy, psychokinesis, pyrokinesis and others.", "Mental powers that affect physical matter, such as telekinesis.", "the study of the practical use of psychic powers." All of these refer to psychis powers or powers derived from the mind and the only type of these powers in Toaru are esper abilities which IB was proven to not be, and again IB's not scientifical. And psiconics is based on mind and not soul. But if you are really talking about psionics you invented, different from the general one and that of other series, well, interesting or not, it's just a fantasy with no solid basis just like "theories" that use rules from a series in another.

and I was using an RL definition of the soul so the soul I was talking about could control it

What you seem unable to get is that yours and RL's concept of sould is not the same of Toaru's, so that definiton of soul means absolutely nothing in this series.

the fact that imagine breaker is passed down doesn't disprove my theory

Of course it does and I showed you. Not convinced yet? Well, the very fact that IB can reside in non-living objects alone is enough to disprove your theory. And your theory lost credibility the moment you tried to apply Bleach and Soul Eater's logic to Toaru.

Esper powers can be passed down magic can be passed down

You are really, really confused. Being espers or magicians has nothing to do with heritage. You become an esper because you receive certain stimuli and certain conditions are required, and magicians are nothing but normal humans who learned magical knowledge and how to refine life force in magic power.

normally it wouldn't happen naturally but this is imagine breaker we are talking about

I don't understand what you're talking about here. Please, use punctuation because it's a mess reading long post without it.

if it is a magical and scientific power

It's none of them, so...

that improves the chances my theory is so far one of the best that I have read so far

Then I guess you didn't read many theories. There are theories about IB much more probable, reasonable, and with less flaws then yours, and without using stuff that have nothing to do with the series. Also, since you already proved to be confused about many important stuff in Toaru and that this is yours personal theory, your evaluation doesn't sound objective at all.

thinking imagine breaker is the reference point of the world doesn't explain how it can negate magic

Of course it does. The very term "reference point of the world" does. IB negates any supernatural distortion (magic or esper powers) bringing the world to it's orginal stated. Or it should, as without the proper knowledge (and maybe it's original functionality) it's impossible for it to negate Phases.

it has been confirmed that magic in to aru is not from the main world I supposed it could be from another layer of reality

Funny how you think confirmed stuff in the series are not confirmed, but you think the opposite about unconfirmed ones. As you said, it's just a supposition of yours, a personal impression. The series only says that Phases like Heaven and hell are added to the world by religions, but it has never said that magic didn't come to light in the Pure Wolrd and only later the Phases were created. There are 50% chances that magic did or didn't originate in the Pure world.

in fact that makes sense but if Imagine Breaker can ignore this from different layers of reality then why couldn't it ignore laws of nature and such

Only because Phases are added to the world it doesn't necessarily mean that laws of nature are changed. Just look at Othinus' Phases.