Talk:Accelerator/@comment-184.91.216.71-20131114234843/@comment-5230978-20131116165646

1 - He didn't killed Worst because she is a Sisters and temporary recevored himself from his mental breakdown.

2 - He didn't killed Sugitani, but you are conveniently forgetting that he butchered Depart and Spark Signal in the same volume. Probably he spared Sugitani because he thought that, like him, he really wanted to be a good person but his mentality was twisted by the dark side and ended up using wrong methods to save people, so he let him alive because he saw in him the potential for becoming a more decent person. For example, in Kakine's case he didn't see this and he had no problem to kill him, though at the end he didn't die, because letting him alive would have been dangerous for others.

3 - If he had killed all the soldier he wouldn't have obtained any information. He used the best method to obtain information. He clearly changed and he will not physically hurt or kill when it can be avoided, but it doesn't mean he will not do it at all. I already listed some clear examples of this in the previous post.

4 - True, a parent would normally act like that, but he changed his mind from "hurt" to "kill" in a so short time that it's a bit frightening. Even Hamazura killed to protect his loved ones and clearly he isn't a hero but an anti-hero.

5 - Weak point. You said that Accel stopped killing enemies and he wasn't willing to do kill anymore, but now you say that killing to protect his loved ones and to save his life it's ok. I don't remember about Touma be willing to kill someone only to protect himself. Accel wanted to kill Kakine even before being in danger, because between Accel and Kakine there is a natural enmity that his not explainable by the first almost killing the second and the second almost killing Yomikawa. More importantly, when Accel "killed" Kakine his lifes wasn't in danger anymore, because Kakine was losing control of his body and he wouldn't have been able to kill him, but Accel "killed" him nonetheless because he could get back on track in the future.

6 - I don't remeber it was stated that the Trident's members Accel attacked simply losed consciousness. Accel used reflection and kicked them away, so it safe enough to assume that some of them died, at least the one that crashed against a vending machine after being kicked by the strongest esper.

7 - He didn't killed the "heroes" because he knew they were controlled or because he wanted to check if it was really necessary to kill them or not.

8 - What are you saying? Accel already saved people without killing, like the worker held in hostage by Saraku.

"And his skill could only be called more than miraculous given the fact that not even one person had died despite the massive amount of destruction. His ability in vector control had already reached that level." This extract isn't praising him for not killing anyone, but his skill in using vector control that caused such destruction without casualties.

9 - Touma wasn't willing to kill Yakumi, because he was sure that Rensa would have saved her. Obviously Touma isn't a perfect hero, but he is not even an anti-hero.

10 - Nope, Accel killed Kakine's outer layer with his final strike. Probably he would have died even without Accel's intervention, but it's undeniable that it's Accel that gave him the coup de grace, not Takitsubo nor Beetle 05.

11 - Hm, true, he wasn't sure if it was really the case to kill Umidori. Anyway, in the same volume he attacked Hamazura and it was said that he would have at least dislocated both his arms so that he couldn't fight at all. Accel knew Hamazura was intended to save Fremea, so he likely wanted to do it to prevent him getting in the way or even to avoid him being killed by Freshmen, but whatever the reason is that is not a method a hero would use.

Again, Accel really changed a lot during WW3, but he's still an anti-hero. Remember that there are a lot of levels of anti-heroicalness. He isn't the psychopathic anti-hero he was before vol 20, he is a more merciful one, but still an anti-hero. He also stopped trying to become a hero like Touma in NT 6.