Thread:OH&S/@comment-5275759-20161127011121/@comment-5275759-20170108235708

Sorry about the delays and lack of progress, OH&S.

The aspect of the Rosenthal Family which I wished to check with you was Estelle's forebears. In Chapter 29, three were named during the explanation of the Rosenthal Family's 400 year history; Obed, the family's ancestor banished by the of his homeland, Isaac the 4th head and Nathan the 5th head. However they were only referred to by their given names.

It would be a reasonable assumption that their last name would be Rosenthal, however I thought it would be best to look over the possibilities and the reasoning surrounding them with others before proceeding on that assumption and creating the articles, just to be safe and avoid any holes or oversight.

Regrettably I haven't been able to look into genealogical practices for this, though I've checked on the etymology for Rosenthal (of German/Jewish origin and meaning "valley of roses").

This is my reasoning so far:
 * Isaac and Nathan are described as the 4th and 5th head respectively. Someone described as the head of the family would almost certainly bear the family's name as their last name (though there is a small chance of a hyphenated addition)(if an ancestor in the position of family head was from an earlier, differently named family and bearing that family's name, they wouldn't be counted as a head of the later family). The surname's origin and their location would also appear to support this. Certain historical attitudes might also support it (although they might possibly be disregarded within the Toaruverse).
 * Though an ancestor of a family might not necessarily bear the family's name, the surname's origin and the locations where Obed lived before (Rabbinic, which one originally uncertain) and after exile (East) strongly suggest it. Similar case to the above with regards to historical attitude.

Either way, I was thinking about putting a short note explaining the situation and the reasoning surrounding it in the Trivia sections of the character articles once they receive them.

On an unrelated note, I was thinking about compiling a list of Primary Singular Narrative References for the cast. Any thoughts regarding the subject?