Talk:Kakine Teitoku/@comment-24007030-20140728023821/@comment-5230978-20140819115600

He used it in Vol.16 too before the Manifestation of the third arm....

That's not the automatic defense I'm talking about. The pope's spell was probably too weak for him as a magician and was able to move then he used the HR to destroy it and St. Peter's Basilica. There is no refence of Fiamma being able to use the HR when it's not manifested.

What i meant was that we cant go beyond this, im aware of the things you mentioned, i agree with the similarity too, they certainly have a connection...

And Mikoto has not for what we know. That's the main issue.

well, kakines dark matter was also bound to aim since rikou affected it ^_^ isnt to strange to have wings who are out of aim and DM at the same time >_>

Accel was the only confirmed awakened esper the have wings made of congregated AIM and Takitsubo can track and affect the AIM of all the espers like she did with Mugino. I though you would have brought up the "Dark Matter is made of AIM" argument, I theorized that too times ago and it's a possibility, but it's nothing but another speculation. You said that you think the black sphere is made of DM (speculation) because you find similiarities with the strange explosion Kakine used in vol 15 (speculation based on a vague description explainable in diffent ways), because it reminded you of Accel's black wings (speculation based on personal opinion without counting the difference between the wings and the sphere), and now, as basis for the latter, you want to use another specualtion, that DM is made of AIM. A speculation based on two speculations, one of wich is based on another speculation. Even if this one is something I theorized too, I cannot trust a so if-based and therefore fragile hypothesis. Can we adfirm something so unreliable is the most probable conclusion?