Talk:La Persona Superiore a Dio/@comment-11437688-20130819091653/@comment-11571396-20131127011527

''Isn't "The one that cleanses God" a description of "God's Right Hand", at the same time describing the Right Hand's main mission/duty/purpose of existence ? '' Not...really. Fist, there is no "God's Right Hand", it's either the Holy Right or Imagine Breaker. Anyway, the Holy Right's main purpose is to cleanse the Original Sin, not cleanse God. Even IB's job is to return abnormal values back to "normal"

''As only one equal to God, can cleanse God.  Again, no. The magical concept of La Persona Superiore a Dio in Index'' is quite hard to grasp but easy to understand if you do. In Index verse, Kamachi-sensei makes extensive use of hierarchical theme in his story line, exemplified by Terra of the Left's Execution of Light. The meaning of this is that someone of the lower order can't harm much less kill someone of the higher order, the exception to that is IB. However, to fit this concept in LPSaD, it was theorized by magician that the position of the Cristian God is a fixed position, he can't be a subordinate or anything else, only God. The only other being in Judeo-Christian mythos that is equal in rank to God is Michael, the Right Hand of God, and Fiamma's Archangel. But humans are different, and Fiamma is unique. His race as a human offers him infinite possibilities of growth, his position of Michael in God's Right Seat lets him assume his authority (therefore his rank and powers) based on Idol Theory. However, what made him superior to God when he achieves LPSaD is that he achieved a state that is the same authority as God. Now what made him above God at this point? As I said, the position of God and everything else in Toaru follows a strict hierarchy, so there can't be another being that is the same as God, so the only place for him to go in the hierarchy is above God. Its quite simple and stupid, but that is how Idol Theory works in Toaru. Your misconception to that is that you assume that LPSaD is more powerful that God, which is incorrect. Its just a state and magical hierarchy that places Fiamma above God (having the same power and authority) in the hierarchy because he can't be God because there can't be another God. And while I'm discussing hierarchies, no, LPSaD can't defeat Aiwass and possible Aleister. It's not because of being much more powerful that Him, but because of the being being speculated to be beyond those hierarchies. Going by Aiwass and Aleister's statements: Someone from the Aeon of Osiris can't possibly beat me (us), someone from the Aeon of Horus (Index v19 & v22, said about Accel and to Fiamma).

This comes from the fact that the second right hand is currently serving under God, while the first one is currently fighting against God. What? When is this explicitely stated in the novels? IB is against supernatural, not God. It's not a question of God, but of Aeons.

It was already alluded many times that Touma is aligned with the first/oryginal "God's Right Hand", of course there is no confirmation :P. You will have to give me the quotes.