Talk:Saint/@comment-11571396-20130713231939/@comment-24680843-20141127000612

What else is there but Divine? I don't understand what you mean? Divine is Divine.

OK so miracles are not negated by IB, Arisa proves that. But maybe that form of Miracle was bound to be like how the leylines are, they're supernatural but cannon be negated.

Edit: If Touma was a Saint IB would have negated his Saint power making him a normal guy with a strange right hand. Even if quite resistant, Touma's physical endurance is not superhuman. There could even be something behind, but definitely not a Saint power. Also, Saints and Fiamma are all humans, but they still have power of divine nature (Christian divine), so it's not necessary for a being to be divine even with a divine power.

Exactly, Touma IS a normal guy, but remember that IB cannot negate a power more powerful than it's own, so what if we interpret that some of the *saint* power/body endurance leaks out a little bit allowing such a feat. But what My first post was saying either a saint or something superior, Saints are magical side related, but the superior would like I said be Divine it works completely differently than telesma.