Talk:Othinus/@comment-121.6.108.99-20140816165043/@comment-5230978-20140911010427

Im not, but i will not reply to this topic anymore because you misunderstood me, still talking the same stuff and dont try to comprehend what i wrote in our discussion -_-

I misunderstood you? Do I have to remeber you all the times you misread, misniterpreted, didn't pay attention, and even ignored what I wrote in our discussions? That's exactly why I have to repeat myself (something I don't really like especially when I give clear and simple explanation) in our discussion, so don't play the role of the victim. You said you didn't know the limits of IB despite they were shown and written in the series so much times that it's almost annoying, so if you really didn't know about those or you didn't pay attention in a lot of occasion while following the series or you don't have a very good memory. But whathever the reason was I gave you clear explanations about what was wrong in your ideas. You didn't necessarily have to fully accept them in that case, but at least you should have had some doubt, yet there was none in your posts and you continued to insist as if you ignored my words (which you probably did). So if your version is true, why did you insist so much? You didn't give an answer to this and it wasn't even written in your posts. I paid attention to what you wrote, but if you don't have a proper answer for this question then the most logic conclusion one can make is that you believed IB could negate normal things.

I really dont know >_> im surely not blind and i think i have a slightly below average comprehension skill for english texts but it still doesnt work:

And yet not only you misread that part (which could even be explainable by simple lack of attention), but you continue to believe your wrong interpretation is right in spite of the fact that with a small amount of attention anyone could understand it's not and you ignore the fact that IB is not even mentioned (and this, my dear, is blindness, or stubborness if you prefer).

Read the wiki about his precognition...

I know how the precognition was gained, but you wrote "skills like dodging are his precognition (which also existed in vol.1 before touma met index, he negated mikotos electricity with little to no harm), so, the "developed through fighting"-part is nonsense" as if I or that part of novel said that and as if it was a valid argument to counter me, when it's neither that nor the other.

''my point? why are alliws always there if needed? (small hint: even if the chances are small, IB makes it possible)''

Do you understand that what guides the allies (or the enemies of the enemies)'s actions are their bond with Touma and/or theit personal reasons and that most of them are very skillful individuals, which is why they are able to arrive in time? And in a lot of cases the allies were with Touma from the very beginning. Cases of convenient allies' appearance not guided by bonds and personal reason are non existent (at least talking about Touma). Explaing that just with luck not only is wrong, but ridiculously simplicistic. And there are allies arriving in time to help in most of the shounen series, but that doesn't absolutely mean that the character helped has a probability manipulation ability (something which never happened in the tens of series I followed) so yours is a very weak point.

''Did you ever try and look at the fights? it is true that he is involved into the fights, but whhy? becasue he goes around and finds himself inside the enemys base where he is attacked and needs to fight? NO!! he always choses this way, it is his decision''

As always you don't see the overview but you focus only on what is convenient for you. Most of times he is involved in dangerous situation because others force or deceive him, or he and/or people he cares about are targeted. He decides to help others after he know that something bad is happening to them, but this generally happens when he is already involved.

and where (except for vol.11) had touma such misfortune?

Vol 5, 6, 12-13, 16, 17-18, 20-21-22 (not exactly but Fiamma would have come for him if Touma didn’t come), NT 7, NT8-9, just to say the most obvious ones.

he has the most lucky coincidences in the whole toaru world,

And here you are again, seeing only what you want to see and ingoring the rest. Touma faced so much unfortunate events to counter the “lucky” ones (most of which have a reason behind and are logically explainable without probability manipulation, or luck, or plot armor), even without NT9, and rest still generally end with him injuried.

and this was explained with IB, but since it seems like you doesnt even try to understand it

Because you didn’t give any valuable reason. At first I thought you misread only that part with Othinus, but now I see that you have misinterpreted a large part of the series if you believe luck is the main answer for that. The basis for your phantasy are just misreadings and misinterpretions, so how could someone go along with it? And how could IB be a power with probability manipulation when it’s the cause of Touma’s misfortune by negation of his luck? If you had said IT or the dragons caused a probability manipulation as a side effect I could even have understood as we don’t know what they do, but there is no way it could give positive influence to Touma.