Talk:Kakine Teitoku/@comment-24.63.118.235-20140816101505/@comment-25093611-20140818111131

^ i did read it, the argument with nukes or big explosions is a good one but it only works if izzard is far away >_>

if we give izzard a stable mind than we need to give it to kakine too, and such a kakine would simply produce dark matter in every possible space, izzard would need a save place for himself, and if he cant destroy kakine he will run out of stamina,

izzard cant affect dark matter because it is unknown, he can only affect the things which are recreated inside his mind thanks to the spell, and DM doesnt belong to this world, izzard cant affect kakine directly, and if he cant destroy him fast enough he will run out of stamina (and this fights is without the "outside of the realms of the Physical laws" which would turn this into a r*pe battle o__o )

in the end it would be similar with worst vs kuroko, the advantage and disadvantage for both chars are evenly parted, but i would go with kakine because he is immortal, something which i didnt see from izzard •_•