Talk:Accelerator/@comment-113.172.87.139-20140326145651/@comment-5230978-20140326211942

No, I'm not forgetting anything. I know that Rensa was able to reproduce IB to a certain extent, but no explanation was given for this. Normally Rensa can only repoduce esper abilities and clearly cannot reproduce magic, because AC don't know how it works, same thing for powers that are not from the Science and the Magic side, so if IB was partially reproduced it must be due to some features of it which we don't know yet, like most of it. Also, the explanation of Ollerus about the fear ond hope of the magician is not a proven thruth, he himself adfirmed it and Touma too said he is not sure it it was it's real origin. IB is neither magical nor scientifical and we know this for years.

As always, Mr. ARF is putting his personal opinion, preferences and wishes above what the series showed. This far, from the Magic side, only Abrahamic angels were seen and referenced, and they have the features I listed in my previous post. You, instead, are talking about angels that have never been seen or mentioned. Also, we saw that even another esper Awakened, Kakine, and that Mikoto in her third transformation during her Level 6 Shift attempt by the hand of Gensei displayed an halo. Do you think that all of them are half angels? Try to realistic, at least for once. Don't forget that we already have a huge hint about the Awakening since vol 3:

“System?”

'''“That is the term for one who is not a god yet reaches the will of the heavens. Our goal is something beyond Level 5. We humans do not understand the truth of this world. However, that makes things simple. If someone who has a status above that of a human appeared, that person would be able to understand god’s response.” '''

“…” 

'''Index’s movements stopped. '''

'''She recognized what she had just heard. Kabbalah had the concept of the Sephirot tree. It was a diagram with 10 levels that divided up the positions of humans, angels, and god. And on that Sephirot tree, the crucial position of god was nowhere to be found. '''

'''Ain Soph Aur, Ain Soph, Ain. '''

000, 00, 0. 

'''As god’s territory could not be understood by humans and the concept could not be expressed by humans, it was not shown on the Sephirot tree. '''

'''However, a religious system had appeared to take advantage of that. '''

'''Their doctrine stated that, if humans could not understand, they merely had to gain bodies that surpassed those of humans. '''

'''They claimed that humans were gods in the process of being purified, so they could gain the bodies of gods and freely use the techniques of god by training themselves. They were the first mavericks of the Christian Church and they were even considered dangerous by the Apostle John. '''

'''It was known as Gnosticism. '''

'''“Ars Magna,” Himegami muttered while touching the large cross at her chest. '''

'''The man who had once used alchemy to reach Ars Magna had likely belonged to that ideology. After all, Ars Magna of alchemy was not the technique of turning lead to gold. It was the technique of sublimating a human soul that had been dulled like lead into an angel’s soul that was like gold. '''

'''Gnosticism was popular among those who strayed from the proper path in the occult because it involved usurping the power of god. Regardless of the differences in how they thought, humans all wanted to reach the same place. '''

Aleister is trying to do something quite similiar, at least to create a Level 6, and the territories concur with the "steps" of the espers shown and narrated this far: humans = normal espers, angels = awakened espers, God = Level 6. The theory of the Awakening being an "evolution" of the normal esper condition is the most supported and the nearest to what the novel showed thus far. The theory of the half-angel, on the other hand, is based on nothing but the wish of some readers to have a second-class cliché applied to Accel, with no valid point or reference from the novel.