Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-173.87.221.2-20150408002555/@comment-5230978-20150409011542

^^''This is from my memory but when Aliester said fiamma was trying to explain IB and even the one who purifies god. He wasnt talking about touma was he(last name)? or was he refering to IT(which appeared as a hand and it being in touma's right hand)?''

I personally think Aleister was referring to the IT with that epithet but it could have easily been referred to Touma too and there would be a meaning in IT residing in Touma. About the invisible hand I told you it was probably just a similitude.

Actually why I was curious with the hand and roar which could mean they are two different things

I'm not sure to understand how the invisible hand and the roar stuff could mean they are two different things. With all the strange things in Toaru an invisible hand that can even roar wouldn't be so surprising.

''and fiamma was trying to explain what IT/IB was but couldnt because of the wrong format with the whole aeon thing. I dont believe he ever tried to explain what touma was and why im confused with the one who purfies god part.''

As Aleister said if he was of Horus he could have understood what IB and IT were, but he seemed to have understood something during their conversation and in NT 4 he have a better undwrstanding IB, probably thanks to Ollerus or he just found Terra's researches. Obviously it's nothing compare to Aleister's understanding.

You know this whole dragon thing where IT being related to dragons or the third power or even the third power related to dragons.........sigh its really easier to call touma a cluster f*** of power and be done with it.

Well, when it comes to theory about IT and/or dragons and/or the third power it's never easy as their are the greatest mysteries.

^Well, you know, Choronzon is the dweller there, and his job is to trap the traveler in his meaningless world of "illusion." As IB is the Illusion Killer IT could be the Illusion Creator (ugh what a lame name), ergo Choronzon. It's like the order and chaos duality the opener was talking about but more logical and likely.