Talk:Gungnir/@comment-222.127.91.72-20140427020702/@comment-4419516-20160213135239

As I said, I agree with you that that Gae Bolg and Ea are powerful weapons, and in the Nasuverse they might be stronger weapons than Nasuverse Gungnir, but that only applies to their verse. They can't be even begin to compare with Toaru's Othinus' Gungnir, they are simply too different in terms of scale and power. And no, it's impossible for Avalon or Rho Aias to block Gungnir, since it destroys the World (and World here means the entire universe and all other Phases/realms like Heaven, Hell or any of the other phases mentioned; not just planet Earth like Ea) when thrown, so neither would continue to exist to even try to block the spear itself. Fragarach would also be useless since neither Bazzet or Fragarach would exist after Gungnir is thrown, making it impossible for Bazzet to use it to answer the attack.

At this point I'm sure you haven't read NT9 and are simply going by that small list of traits in this page. I understand your confusion since the mention of Othinus' version in action is just a line after its basic traits, I'll fix that now. But no matter what you say, the facts are that Othinus' Gungnir is simply much, much stronger than any of the Nasuverse weapons I've seen (my knowledge is limited to Fate, but if Ea is the strongest weapon overall in the Nasuverse then I'm sorry to say it can't begin to match Othinus' Gungnir; that's the scale she and her spear worked on).

It's just like Toaru's Dainsleif being stronger than Nasuverse's Dainsleif, but Nasuverse Ascalon being stronger than Toaru's Ascalon, each verse rates and does their stuff diferently. Trying to argue that they are stronger because they surpass Nasuverse Gungnir is nonsense.