Talk:Awakening/@comment-95.56.143.229-20200411121716/@comment-25431873-20200413170240

Thankfully the article is locked so you can't edit it for your arbitrary reasons after a ridiculous ultimatum. Reading your post, your points are very disjointed and don't really work as arguments, as you don't actually make connections between your points. For example, the epithets: yes Accel and Kakine have them, but that doesn't prove anything about Awakening or Kakine having the capacity thereof. It's just an association fallacy, because you haven't proven the epithets hint at awakening (and are not just some informal titles about the nature of their power) and that simply because they share them both can awaken.

Correlation is not causation.

You keep doing this, like how Kakine and Accel are compared by people, therefore, to you, thatmust mean Kakine can awaken. That's just arguing from incredulity.

And then you mention power levels, which has nothing to do with the wings unless you think wings = more power. As well, having angelic attributes doesn't mean being able to awaken: after all, Kazakiri and Aiwass have angelic attributes, are you gonna say they have awakened too?

This is why I called it opinionated, it's not based on actual evidence or reasoning, but your wishful thinking making you see things that aren't there.

Do you know why Kakine hasn't awakened? Here are the attributes we know:

1. Contact with magic: every first manifestation of Accel's wings or change in color, magic was involved. When he first gained his black wings, he heard Index' magical song (and in the manga's version, it was when he faced the Taowu). When he first gained his white wings, he had sung the angelic song using the data from Index's song and the parchments. When he gained the platinum wings, Qliphah had used the Network to create Clonoth.

2. Angelic: it's not just about physical angelic attributes. After first gaining the black wings, Index compares them as similar to Telesma. Amd later, we are shown that Accel is able to sense magic, just like Sasha after having had Telesma in her body from having switched with Gabriel. And, of course, Accel speaks the same garbled angel language as Aiwass and Gabriel, at least when he had the black wings.

With just those two things, it is clear Kakine hasn't awakened because he demonstrates none of this.

(Some parts of your post seem to flip flop between the positions "Kakine has Awakened" and "Kakine should be able to Awaken", so to preempt any moving of the goalposts to the latter position, if it's hypothetical it has no place in the article.)

Your only valid point is the weakness of the link in the trivia. I suspected it came from 4chan which is ridiculously difficult to link to, and turns out I was right: a post about the passage in question. And it is clearly shown the exact same thing the Animelist post was talking about.

Edit: Pics version if the 4chan link ever dies.