Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-173.87.221.2-20150408002555/@comment-5230978-20150408230754

^^Final stage mean final part not final battle so it's referred to Fiamma. Garbiel isn't even part of the war as it was just used aby Fiamma and wanted to return home (Heaven). The battle against Gabriel can be said an after-war battle. Also, for what we know IT was not even used against it. But even if it was and Othi was referring to that as IT's decent result, it would mean that the results against Fiamma wasn't decent or less decent than that against Gabriel, which mean IT somehow was stronger in the fight against Gabriel (evolution, change, power-up, or whatever it is), but as said above she was referring to Fiamma.

^She obviously knows a lot of IB as she also used it the return to Touma's world meaning she knows how to properly use it, at least to a certain extent. Other magicians knowing a lot about it must be the entire True Gremlin but the one that knows more than any other magician is definitely Aleister.

The evedinces are showed throughout the entire series. Just read and you will find (It's not that I have so musch time to waste checking novels to provide quotes. If I can do that you can too and maybe you will believe more easily to it.) And Touma's school is a low level one. Tokiwadai, a middle school, gives a much better preparation than his high-school. Touma is not a good student in his own school, so do you really think he have could be a good one in better schools? Seriously, this argument is so obvious that we shouldn't even talk about it.

If you look at the actual information, yes it is. If you have a more reasonable and probably reading, I'm all ears.

There is nothing saying that there are more than one IT and from the way Alesiter referred to it in vol 22 there is only oneand if there is someon who knows well about the topic it's Aleister (especially if the IT is Choronzon, which is likely enough). And we may have seen eight heads, but were was stated that they are all different beings? Lokk at their behavior: they all do the same thing (biting) and act in perfect sync like a herd, but if they were all different beings/powers it's doubtful there would be such a result. For what we know they are different heads of a multiheaded dragon or whatever it is. More importantly, if there were more than one IT, after Othi defeated the first others would have come out like the dragons did in Railgun. And if I understand Kamachi's though pattern a bit after all these years reading his series, he won't give Touma even more powers than those he already has. IB, IT (stronger than LPSaD and evolving), and the third power even stronger than IT in vol 22 are already too much and by themselve they hold much more mysteries than the rest of the series. If Touma was a typacal shounen protagonist and these was a typical shounen series it could ahve been the case, but it's not and Kamachi doesn't like using shounen expedients.

Aleister is interestered both to IT and IB as they are main part of his plan. True Gremlin, well we only know they are after in Touma but not for what of his powers. They could just be interested in him as individual for a strange plan and not to his powers for what we know.