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We Need a New Layout!
Since we are currently in the Animanga Wiki Spotlight for this month, we should spruce up the Wiki's CSS so that it looks relevant to the content. What do you think? I need some ideas too. Herald of meridian 08:37, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah totally, we should get rid of that Index stretching image and replace it with the Toaru Majutsu no Index logo, and the overall color scheme should at least be light bluish to complement the logo, just my 2 cents.---TheGreatEye 10:09, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be working on it and it will be available by tomorrow GMT+8. It can be subject to change if deemed necessary or if we need to add Railgun in it too. Herald of meridian 13:22, April 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copy the css for the sky theme and add it to MediaWiki:Monaco.css. Remove the "@group Main Page" section before you save it. Also need a favicon.--Sxerks 17:06, April 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * The new logo is up! I'll also open it for further discussion (like what you want to change or other suggestions). Herald of meridian 01:43, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * At the moment I don't see a change in the skin even though it has been changed, I've cleared my cache but it looks like the default sapphire skin to me, maybe there is a Wikia cache problem.--Sxerks 16:24, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't changed anything in the Monaco.css. :P I'm running out of ideas on how to change the layout (color schemes, etc.) and the only thing I've changed is the title of the Wiki in the main page (Toaru Universe Wiki) and the logo. The logo and the CSS should be discussed first. Herald of meridian 02:22, April 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * But you changed it yesterday, you add the sky css to the MediaWiki:Monaco.css, and changed the skin setting to custom. We should be able to see that change, the side bar should be blue at the moment. That's odd.--Sxerks 03:30, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

In Need of Some Ideas!
Guys, I'm working on the CSS for the Wiki and I'm currently running out of ideas. Currently, my ideas include shrinking the text of the article and the stuff on the side. I also want to make the header occupy just one line. Now, I need some suggestions on color and/or layout for the Wiki. -Herald of meridian 13:20, May 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Check the recent changes for my theme tests(5 of them) they are all based off of the Red Wikia Obsession. I'm currently using the Aqua one on the Thief Wiki.--Sxerks 23:52, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I dunno... it would require the site to look dark. I was thinking of leaving the article page white while the other parts get their colors. I'll try experimenting later if that works. Herald of meridian 00:01, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * OK, use this one, it's based off of the official site, and part of the Wikia Forest theme. It's a start.--Sxerks 02:11, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

How about we put up a new title for every character stating who they defeat and lost to? --AcceleratorLastOrder 17:53, Sep 2, 2010


 * I don't understand. Cite some examples.---TheGreatEye 04:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think what he meant is that we should record the battles that happened within the story. For example, in Episode 02 of Toaru Majutsu no Index, Touma defeats Stiyl. I'm not sure about the format, but the Bleach Wiki has implemented this. heraldofmeridian♣ 07:43, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you just have to put up titles like victories and defeats and put the characters names in point form --AcceleratorLastOrder 05:07, September 3, 2010 (GMT +8.00)
 * Should we make an article for each individual fight, like the Bleach Wiki?---TheGreatEye 06:49, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I have mixed feelings for that, particularly because we have a comprehensive and very detailed synopsis. We can just add a section for battles and note there which ones are fighting and the outcome. heraldofmeridian♣ 08:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)

Frontpage suggestion
Well, this maybe a little out-of-line to me, but to put it bluntly, the front page seems rather dull and plain. I visited the Shakugan no Shana wiki, and kind of liked the look of their frontpage and I wanted to see something similar in the wiki, I'm talking about the Media and categories subsections in the Content section of the front page.

Is the idea of having small pictures above these things too absurd? I mean we want to draw in people to read and eventually contribute to this wiki aren't we? My suggestion is that we should at least remodel the Contents section as so it could pique the interest of anyone who happens to visit the wiki. What do you guys think?---TheGreatEye 22:57, June 4, 2010 (UTC)

First of all, I just modified the front page code so that I shows up on the WYSIWYG mode of the editor (it's hard to layout when you don't know how it turns out) and right now it should look almost the same as the one with complex code although with misaligned stuff. As for the stuff from Shakugan no Shana Wiki, I'll try to replicate that or do something else. Herald of meridian 01:09, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * Do you mind if I try my hand in editing the front page?..I've gotten a few ideas after browsing a few other wikis that I like to try out..---TheGreatEye 03:39, June 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * The main page isn't for testing, if you want to try something out to see how it looks use a sandbox under your user page: User:TheGreatEye/sandbox
 * --Sxerks 04:13, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't really know how to use that thing, anyway I've visited the Half-Life wiki and as you can see the the frontpage has a section for it's categories, what do you guys think about it?..---TheGreatEye 12:20, June 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * You just copy the entire contents of the main page to your sandbox page, and play with it there.--Sxerks 14:03, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

New featured media, Index Second Season.
My sources:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-07/toaru-majutsu-no-index-2nd-season-green-lit

http://www.moetron.com/2010/06/06/toaru-majutsu-no-index-season-2-announced/

Lero 17:40, June 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * You might want to announce that upcomin Index game as well...---TheGreatEye 13:30, June 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * yup i already heard about it and it means more new space and article for seperating between the light novel, game, manga , and anime . Seriously it only about 4 months (probably more due some problem) and look at how much change already change Fukou da WiliamZ 17:47, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Countdown to Season 2
Wouldn't it be easier to have a countdown timer displayed on the main page, instead of constantly editing the main page every time just so one can change the number of days left for the next season to air? Just throwing it out there.---TheGreatEye 05:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * No idea on how to do it. @_@ heraldofmeridian♣ 08:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well I have limited control, but I think you can fare much better, here is the mediaWiki page for the countdown timer: link. ---TheGreatEye 09:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Even with that, I don't know how I would install it. D: Should I do a Special:Contact? heraldofmeridian♣ 12:24, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I found and added a timer, it you don't see it Ctrl-F5 to refresh.--Sxerks 02:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dont no if its me but where im from its 1 hour behind Japan and it says it starts 1:30am on Tokyo MX thats over half and hour after posting this so yeah XD LLHayate-Kun 15:53, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

ISML Updates
Just throwing out this idea that if you guys don't know about ISML then look at this link, ISML Currently there in the Double Elimination Finals with Misaka Mikoto just emerging victorious over Aisaka Taiga, now shes up against Shana. Id like to request permission of posting this information about the tournament on the main page here in this Wikia as its character from Index it needs to be supported by their fans, hope you guys agree and thanx in advance. LLHayate-Kun 06:44, September 9, 2010 (UTC)

~LL~


 * ~LL~ OK Update from ISML Misaka lost to Akiyama Mio and now has to beat the winner of the next match out of Nakano Azusa or Shana


 * its a shame but oh well also


 * Index and Kuroko were featured as an exhibition match with Index beating Kuroko just thought that id throw that out there.


 * LLHayate-Kun 08:35, September 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Another Update from ISML Shana has beaten Nakano Azusa by a close margin and Misaka Mikoto will now face Shana in a rematch for a place in the Final against Akiyama Mio


 * LLHayate-Kun 03:50, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Better yet Misaka Mikoto has beaten Shana once again and has a place in the Championship Match with revenge against Akiyama Mio will she come out on top in this match!!!
 * LLHayate-Kun 07:23, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately Misaka has lost to Akiyama Mio by over 2000 votes its a shame but she did really well XD
 * LLHayate-Kun 16:36, October 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately Misaka has lost to Akiyama Mio by over 2000 votes its a shame but she did really well XD
 * LLHayate-Kun 16:36, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

A Big Change for Ursula (now Orsola) Aquinas
In the AnimeSuki Forums, one user actually pointed out that Ursula to Romanize オルソラ is incorrect and the official Romanization used by Haimura in the guidebook is Orsola. Upon further investigation, they're right; Orsola is an Italian name (which corresponds to her citizenship) and actually is the Italian counterpart for the English name Ursula.

I've made the move for two articles, and I just need some help in changing some details. Can anyone help me out, and I'll be posting a notice on the massive change within the week. heraldofmeridian♣ 12:49, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well... This could take a while.---TheGreatEye 13:10, September 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * huh... wow looks like bakatsuki might have to change their translations too ... but i don't think they will but yeah Orsola it is. LLHayate-Kun 16:50, September 11, 2010 (UTC)

Just asking
to which volume of the light novels will season 2 reach?

hmmm well i can guess since Itsuwa will be introduced im thinking up 2 Volume 15 but maybe the more higher ups of this wikia have different answers and thanx for updating the front page for ISML XD.

LLHayate-Kun 08:00, September 24, 2010 (UTC)


 * Our best guess is the 2nd season will reach until vol.13.


 * But, it our guess seems to have flaws:


 * - Acqua of the Back appears, but with his maze which he shows only on the vol.16


 * - Appears Terra of the Left but using his guillotine showed on vol.14.


 * - Itsuwa is on a place which seems to be Academy City, when so far in the vol.11 was on Italy where the buildings are of an old style.


 * Lero 15:49, September 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it probably for the season 3 a little preview won't hurt do you agree plus it seems it going to be ended in vol 13 and start from oumi arc since the last is kihara and accel whilt the begining is touma vs oumi but if i could hope they add the leghth of the episode from 24 to 36 or more because if they cut it too much it won't be a very good decission WiliamZ 17:40, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it probably for the season 3 a little preview won't hurt do you agree plus it seems it going to be ended in vol 13 and start from oumi arc since the last is kihara and accel whilt the begining is touma vs oumi but if i could hope they add the leghth of the episode from 24 to 36 or more because if they cut it too much it won't be a very good decission WiliamZ 17:40, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Petition to merge articles
This is my request, I want articles like Large Weapon, mobile suits, Six Wings and Jet fighters to be merged into one article called "Academy City Army" (or other name if there is any better).


 * Army is a branch of the military, so it would be apt if the article would be called Academy City Military, though those articles refer to Academy City technology and Academy City Army or Military describes the organization as a whole not just the technology they use.---TheGreatEye 21:40, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm on it; merging all Academy City machinery and merging it to Academy City Military. If someone has some idea as to how to add more details in the article, please do. heraldofmeridian♣ 00:36, September 27, 2010 (UTC)

Too Many Redirects?
I noticed while I was merging the Academy City Military articles together that there are so many redirects in the article roster. I was thinking of taking out some of the redirects, but it's best to ask you guys on which ones I should take out. heraldofmeridian♣ 01:11, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, you can start from Orsola and Agnese, and then what's linked to them. How many redirects are there anyway?--Teh Ping 16:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * We have 206 redirects, with 9 double redirects. heraldofmeridian♣ 00:44, October 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Then let me also help you but later but don't worry i will also check the other one too WiliamZ 17:35, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

So, just help me out here...
Okay, I requested for this latest poll in order to see which one we should do, the reason being that at least we have an idea of what to work on. Joay's just touched up on where Twi left off, but I don't know whether he would want to finish up SS1, so I left that out as an option. Maybe I should have left 17 and 18 as an option, but oh well...

And as for why I undid the edits, it's because the poll count got reset.--Teh Ping 16:35, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Gee, I want to help out but my japanese not really that good, even i make something terrible mistake "at least spare me or forgive me" by spreading several rumor "well only half that correct" about vol 22 summary "but hey everyone ever wrong at least" WiliamZ 17:33, October 7, 2010 (UTC), oh and teh ping about touma die by arch angel is not really correct it more correct if i said "gone from his world" not died or killed, even though it seems like it give my appologies to animesuki guys OK "I AM SORRY"

Preview of Episode 1 of To Aru Majutsu no Index Season II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlPfc7P_Y0&feature=sub -AcceleratorLastOrder

nice thanx for that guess the yumisaka ouma arc is ep 1 XD LLHayate-Kun 16:35, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Opening and Ending 1 of Season II w/o anime scenes
Opening 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAtk3nZ0iOs

Ending 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l77aDudISaA - AcceleratorLastOrder


 * Confirmation on it's legitimacy?---TheGreatEye 10:23, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * hmmm sounds legit to me but at the same time not .... could be previews from a commercial of the anime so maybe it is maybe it isnt XD LLHayate-Kun 13:12, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think they are edited version of the previews.Lero 14:55, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Better no then never right WiliamZ 17:26, October 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is legit, it was all of a show emitted on niconico 200.116.4.107 06:56, October 8, 2010

Naming Conventions... Again? And the Need for Policies
So I've noticed that we are still implementing last name-first name order for Japanese names. As far as I remember, they are there way back when I was still a normal user in this wiki. But what I've noticed is that many large wikis are implementing first name-last name ordering, like in Bleach and Naruto wikis. If ever we implement this, a lot of articles would need to be edited for proper ordering, but it will be less confusing for users to determine if Kamijou is Touma's surname, for example.

Also, I've noticed that we haven't come up with a concrete set of rules for this wiki. We are steadily growing with about 500 articles (400-500 excluding redirect pages) and handling such a big number of articles would be chaotic without a set of guidelines. GalaxyTM has pointed out in the main page about segregation of information from the light novels and the anime adaptation, and add the yet-undecided naming conventions and some other stuff here.

I'd like everyone to participate on the discussion so that we can at least let the other users know your ideas and, all in all, to improve on this wiki. heraldofmeridian♣ 01:46, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * I don't believe there is a reason, but if there is a necessary reason to use first name-last name order, then it probably should be considered. I don't think this wikia needs to follow other wikis... After all, we just do what we feel is better, no?


 * A set of guidelines is a good idea. We should brainstorm some here. We already have two: the naming order convention, and the segregation of light novel summaries from anime/manga summaries. I put up the latter now because season 2 has started and most of the light novels covering S2 has been translated. We'll have a spike in edits and users, and starting now, it'd be best to keep them separated. An example of having the two separated can be seen here at Kanzaki's article. GalaxyTM 02:45, October 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * Still waiting for fellow users to add on the discussion. heraldofmeridian♣ 07:11, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Naming conventions shoud stay as is, Japanese style for Japanese names and Western style for western names; characters should be referred by their given names, to remove confusion from other characters with similar names such as Touma and Touya.


 * For codenames such as the Misakas, we should include their serial number when we refer to them. For nicknames such Aogami Pierce I thinks it should appropriate to use the first name.


 * For other things such as episode, manga and light novel standards. I'm kind of comfortable on how the episode articles are setup right now. For manga and light novels, I don't really know since I have yet to edit any of those articles, though it would be wise to make them follow a somewhat similar pattern to the episodes.---TheGreatEye 14:16, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I recently summarized Light Novel 8, and it gets kinda repetitive when I use the same name again and again and again. I kept at it, though, using pronouns and the like. I mainly called them however they were referred to in the Baka-Tsuki translated text. When people are introduced (or the first time they appear in any given wiki article) most people with family names, but Mikoto with her given name (because the other Misakas do appear). When people are not referred to by name but the identity is implied, I wrote what the text said but linked to the person's article. Do tell me if that needs changing. CarVac 19:46, October 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * Character Article Policies
 * It has come to my attention that there are currently no proper guidelines and policies as to how a Character profile article is to created and handled. Originally, articles had little-to-no sections at all, such as the current Biagio Busoni, eventually as more editors came in, it eventually evolved into the structure that what the majority of articles in the wikia has now a shining example is that of the Kamijou Touma article, however, they have many variations as well.


 * Right now, there is currently a new trend in character article editing, such as the Accelerator article and I believe the time is now for us to reach into an agreement as to what guidelines and policies we should use in regards to character articles.


 * For me, I believe, we should go about it in this way:


 * Character name Character name written in their native script/language Relevant information as to introduce the character.


 * --Character Background Section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character's background before the events of the series.
 * --Character Appearance Section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character's apperance/looks, etc.
 * --Character Personality Section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character's apperance/looks, etc.
 * --Chronology Section-- (there should be an agreement as to whether we should use the term chronology or plot, or whether or not we should have two separate sections for Railgun or Index, even though they naturally move forward in the same timeline)
 * ---Arc Subsection--- (there should be an agreement as to the naming of arcs, as well)
 * Light Novel Version Sub-Sub section (section to be provided if there are two or more vastly differing versions of the same arc, such as the Kanzaki Kaori article)
 * Relevant information regarding the character's involvement in the Light Novel Version of the arc.
 * Anime Version Sub-Sub section (same reason for the Light novel version section)
 * Relevant information regarding the character's involvement in the anime Version of the arc.
 * ---2nd Arc Subsection---
 * Etc.
 * --Abilities section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character's abilities
 * --Other appearances section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character's other appearances that are authorized, either by the author, studio, publishing company, etc.
 * ---Relevant sub section---(used if the character is in two or more significant appearances, for example a section on video games, or cameo apperances)
 * Relevant information regarding the character's other apperances
 * --Character Art Design section--
 * Section where we introduce notable design changes of the character
 * --Trivia section--
 * Relevant information regarding the character that has little significance, such as notable quirks, speculations, etc.
 * --Quotes section--
 * Notable quotes by the character
 * --References section--
 * This is extremely important, we should stop putting information arbitrarily anymore, we should at least provide a decent reference to the information regarding the character.

If one has ideas on what should be done, feel free to share. -TheGreatEye 08:42, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Everything there looks good to me - no complaints here. Should be enforced.


 * Other things we should consider are Japanese terms and their translations. I'm mostly referring to the 'nihongo' template here.


 * Japanese Name/Translation (漢字, Romanization ?, Literal Translation if necessary) - like in Tokiwadai Middle School is what I think is best. Having hiragana, like in Sakugawa Middle School, is superfluous when most readers are English speakers and a romanized reading is already provided.


 * Kamachi tends to give kanji different readings (usually katakana). How to present these should be looked at. For example Judgment...provides all the information correctly but burns your[my] eyes.


 * Judgment (風紀委員, Fuuki Iin ?, Disciplinary Committee) - removes the katakana and katakana romanization but looks alot better. Most of the katakana readings can be directly translated into English anyway so nothing is lost.


 * The Character Info boxes should also be remade. They look great, but only for espers. For Magicians, you end up going 'what's his power level?' For normal folk, the ability section would just be empty which just looks plain bad, and deters people from even adding an info box. eg: Kamijou Touya. I don't know how the infobox works or how to modify it but this is definately something to look into.


 * Finally. What is everyone's stance on complex codes? I just kind of annoys me being unable to edit in Rich Text.


 * Fukitscold 11:50, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed that this talk page is getting cluttered already. XD Should we move this huge discussion elsewhere? I might move this along with your posts (signatures included, don't worry) into a blog post or in the Watercooler.
 * Oh, and I've read through the proposals and I can't say anything wrong against it. That's good; however, one of our users have been modifying the layout for many character articles, so we would need to revert things or tweak it a bit. By tomorrow GMT+8 I'll be working on the first drafts of the policies, which would be based on Bleach Wiki for the meantime. Since there's no one going against the suggestions posted, I'll have the proposals above on the draft.
 * As for the Infobox, I'll be working on a new Infobox, created only for this Wiki. I have done the same thing on the Shakugan no Shana Wiki (although it's not really flawless), and you guys can propose on some designs for it.
 * heraldofmeridian♣ 13:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I've read through the proposals and I can't say anything wrong against it. That's good; however, one of our users have been modifying the layout for many character articles, so we would need to revert things or tweak it a bit. By tomorrow GMT+8 I'll be working on the first drafts of the policies, which would be based on Bleach Wiki for the meantime. Since there's no one going against the suggestions posted, I'll have the proposals above on the draft.
 * As for the Infobox, I'll be working on a new Infobox, created only for this Wiki. I have done the same thing on the Shakugan no Shana Wiki (although it's not really flawless), and you guys can propose on some designs for it.
 * heraldofmeridian♣ 13:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * heraldofmeridian♣ 13:10, October 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Most of the stuff on this page should be moved to the Forum, the only ting on this talk pages should be discussions about what is on the Main Page.--Sxerks 18:33, October 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Clothing of Academy City
Based on wht i have read i realized that the cloth of academy city is made out of special material.

It can withstood Misaka electricity,Accelerator vector control and many other ESP power

in volume 20 it also show that it can adapt to any environment

can some explain it more detail on it????

(115.134.218.135 13:53, October 16, 2010 (UTC))

no if it is can withstood those then esper ability is not useful anymore what u probably talking about is the clothing that Itsuwa used, that came from Academy City

Oh by the way everyone, i found this when looking for something. This is about Academy City Map (probably)

http://i55.tinypic.com/2vbwgb9.jpg WiliamZ 14:12, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

You are probably talking about the clothing for military personnel right? ---TheGreatEye 15:10, October 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vol20 Chapter 1 Part 3: Touma mentioned the clothing fibre Academy City developed can adapt to any climate, so even though he's still in his school uniform he doesn't freeze to death. Though it doesn't mean it's perfect as He still wished for a coat in addition to what he had. Flere821 06:52, October 17, 2010 (UTC)