Talk:Othinus/@comment-121.6.108.99-20140816165043/@comment-5230978-20140910154531

your misunderstanding doesnt equal to "me not knowing the limits of IB"

Don't grasp at straws. Maybe you didn't know these limits, which is impossible to believe after all the times they are seen and referenced in the series, but I explained these to you so why did you still insist to substain your ideas about the argument after I showed you they were wrong with decisive examples. If this is not believing IB can negate normal things than what is it?

didnt they mention that could have reached their level if she didnt fall for her human side?

No.

the part you bolded has nothing to do with this,

Poor reading skill or blindness? It has everything to to with this as it's the continuation, the heart, and conclusion of what Othinus said before making objects fall from the sky. Reread with more attention, please:

“'I could kill you, but I am sure you have realized the problem with that. You have a way of somehow escaping dangerous situations brought about by external factors.''' Your inability to die when you should may be the greatest of all misfortunes you have been constantly exposed to. I can kill you with odds greater than 99%, but if you want to fill the gap and reach 100%, it would be faster to end your own life. That would be the most wholesome option for the world.”''

Kamijou heard a quiet sound.

Something had fallen from the sky.

''It was a loop of thick rope used to hang oneself. As soon as he realized what it was, more objects fell around him: a knife, a charcoal grill, a handgun, detergent, a car, pills, a thick plastic bag, a broken hair dryer, a silver sake cup, a knife in a wooden scabbard, a filled gas can, and clothes with rocks filling the bottom in place of weights. It was a colorful, comical, and surreal scene reminiscent of the raining sweets seen in a children’s picture book.''

“'Choose on your own and make up your mind on your own. If you are prepared to bear it all, then you can battle me and destroy the lance. If you are not prepared to do that, then you must end your own life.'” 

skills like dodging are his precognition (which also existed in vol.1 before touma met index, he negated mikotos electricity with little to no harm), so, the "developed through fighting"-part is nonsense (btw, (i think) it was accel and birdways speculations, which means that the "word of god" didnt state anything like that...

Touma is also a quick-thiker and a good analyist, so he doesn't just have dodging skill and precognition. More importanly, the "developed through fighting"-part is just an invetion of yours as neither me nor that part of novel said that, so what are you talking about?

allies which are simply there because they are needed (doesnt matter how small the chance is),

You point? They are still a factor who has always increased Touma's chance of survival. Othinus wasn't only talking about their actual situations but even in general.

and accidential events (which are always happen to toumas favor but this shouldnt be the case, where is the 'misfortune'?)

Touma's has also a lot of beautiful girls in love with him, but this doesn't mean he isn't unfortunate. The very fact that he always involved in dangerous situations cuasing him injuries, near death situation and even death, should be more than a proof of Touma's misfortune.

Seriously, your theory of IB influencing probability doesn't make any sense. Not only it's based on a misreading, but IB is not even mentioned in that part, so there is nothing to substain your point.