Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-173.87.221.2-20150408002555/@comment-5230978-20150409000151

As said above IT and the dragons being the same thing are one of the two main options, but if it's the case than invisibility doesn't mean it is weaker as in vol 22 the IT/dragons was stronger than it was in the previous apperances (chronologically speaking) and was invisible. More than it not being able to maintain the form a dragon it is probably more like it not needing anymore to appear with a physical body (imagine something like becoming pure spirit or energy) or it's simply tha appearance it has after a certain level of strenght is reached. Also, it's true that the novel says "With a roar, it shot toward Othinus without taking any real form." but the term "with a roar"is oftenly used in this series and only with the meaning of producing a great noise, sometimes is used even for normal punches, so I wouldn't say that it can be considered as IT roaring. Anyway, considering how bastard Kamachi can be when it comes to hide hints he could have write it in an ambiguous way to not make the readers understand if IT and the dragon where the same thing. However it could just look vague in English but not in Japanese so it would be better to ask Js06. But whether IT roared or not it could even just be a misleading hint as not only dragons roar, so IT could just be a being that roar but isn't the dragons. You have brought up an interesting point, but there are too unkowns to include it in the equation. Surely knowing how it sound in Japenes could help.

From vol 22:

"In that instant, what Fiamma of the Right felt first was not anger or fear. It was doubt.

There was not a scratch on the boy who should have been turned to ash.

''In fact, the great swirl of light Fiamma had fired had split in two right in front of the boy and scattered to either side of him. Yet that attack had held such power that it could blow away a planet or recreate any of the legends in Christianity.''

It was almost like…

It was almost like it had been blown away by an invisible right hand stretching from the wound on the boy’s shoulder.

“What…?” Fiamma of the Right said still not having grasped what had happened.

''He could not stop the words spilling from his own mouth. They grew and grew like a snowball rolling down a slope.''

''“I took your right hand. So why do you still have that power!?”''"

The invisible hand was just a similitude used by the narration and an impression of Fiamma because the way the attack was stopped seemed to be casued by a negation like that of IB and Fiamma noticed the IT only after. Well, IT could have also taken the form of an invisible hand but later it is always referred as something vague so I doubt it.