Talk:Esper/@comment-71.163.139.221-20140918082245/@comment-71.163.139.221-20140920130505

Ah, I've seen you around the threads. Well, your point is quite valid, but let me clarify for you. I did more research on Euclidean vectors. Yes, for some of the forces used in combat Accelerator can combat them, namely electromagnetism, however for the most part they are stalemates, since there's this scenario: the force Esper shoots, Accel reflects, force esper redirects, and vice versa. And if either do touch each other it's a matter of who reacts fast enough to kill the other. However, gravity is the one force that can trump Accel outright. Allow me to explain: first, the Euclidean vectors exist as a result of phenomena such as the 4 forces, hence why it is a fallacy to say a vector trumps a force, as it is a cause and effect application existence. That being said, since the forces cause matter to accelerate and so create vectors, you cannot control something if it isn't made to exist, which explains why when Accel falcon punched the non kuroko teleporter he required the accelerated wind pinned to his back to reach her; he doesn't outright defy gravity without utilizing collected vectors. So that means while he may not be subject to death via a planet's worth of matter coming at him in every imaginable direction and speed as he just needs to reflect the kinetic vectors created by gravity, he is still subject to being pinned to the ground by the sheer force of gravity itself if the force esper wishes accel to be affected by Jupiter's level of force, and greater if he wanted to make a blood cake out of him.

Another couple things, you're most likely thinking of lvl 6 for absolute power, though I agree that would be freaking op if it's even achievable in their universe to attain sheer power over the universe that the sane mind can control. And it's really unnecessary for you to seem so brash. I'm merely discussing ideas, not obvious politics or rocket science, so you don't need to put :/ and -_- in as if you think I'm stupid.