Talk:Accelerator/@comment-25093611-20150202202234/@comment-5230978-20150207001201

''"being in dept"/"trusting"/"respecting"/"admiring" =/= "caring", all of the stuff your said is true, but non of them shows that he cares about him because he does it... he helped him because of "debt"/"respect"/"sisters wish"/"sisters as reason" not because he cared about him...''

I was baffled before, but I am really dumbfounded now. So your point is that you don't have a point. You say that what I wrote is true and then you essentially say the opposite for... nor real reason and... with nothing to support your statement. What are you saying completely lacks logic and coherence. It's clear as that day that Accel cares for Touma. It's self-evedent. Obvious. Seems you have not really understood what I said, then.

Do you know what "caring" means? Or are you wrongly assuming that I'm saying he cares for Touma on the same way he cares for the Sisters and Yomi-Yoshi (which I have never said)? There are many different levels of caring just like for any other feeling. Unless something bad occurs between two people, if one look up for the other, has a debt of life with the other, greatly trust the other, admires the others, and has his way of life changed by the other he would obvsiously care for that person as he/she has great importance to him. For Accel is the same. It almost seems like you don't understand how human emotions work and how Accel thinks. For God's sake, Accel cared about the lives of perfect strangers, otherwise he wouldn't have any reason to protect them, so how in the world he doesn't care about Touma's life? If someone that played such an important role in his life were to die, he would at least be sad (not necessarely devastated but at least sad) and this means caring for someone. Maybe not like for a lover, a relative, or a close friend, but it's still caring.

Also again, the Sisters couldn't have know that Touma was in danger as the Will doesn't share information with them and they don't even seem to know about her existence, so they couldn't have asked Accel to help Touma. Surely the Sisters would be sad if somethting bad happend to Touma, but Accel would be too even if not like them and the Sisters' feelings are only a further incentive fro him to not let Touma die. The Will makes also quite clear that neither she or the Sisters asked Accel help as she praises him for having been able to gain something through loss saying it denoted his maturity and helping Touma was ergo an idea of him. If someone else asked him to help Touma, then it wouldn't have been worth praisement and the Will is not really gentle toward Accel so praising him when he didn't deserve is something she wouldn't do. Even after that she still lectured him for his flaws.

problem is that you automatically assume that AC would know if accel would control that powers...mostlikley aleister would know because....plot, but not the higher ups, im pretty sure they dont even understand his "awakening"

The real problem is that you automatically come to a conclusion without even considering what happened and was said in the previous volumes. Maybe you don't remember but Rensa's creation was approved by the Board of Director. Not only she can awaken to a certain extent but she also know that the transformation is triggered by certain conditions (though her trigger is not the same of Accel's for the black wings) and she knows that because AC said her or simply imputted the data inside her. She said AC learnt that Accel can also use white wings as they witnessed them during WW3, ergo implied they know about the black ones, which is obvious as Accel's awakening in vol 15 was witnessed by many bystanders, armed Anti-Skill sent to stop him, it was detect by machines and obviously by cameras too. In addtion, Aleister shared some information about his plan with the Board of Directs, like Fuse Kazakiri and they know how she looks as demonstrated by Shiokishi understanding that Aiwass wasn't Kazakiri much to his shock, so he could have also told them told them before or as an explanation of what happened in vol 15. Anyway, as AC knows Accel awakens under certain conditions, if Accel awakened at will without said conditions they would understand he wasn't serious against Touma. I don't know how I could be more clear than this.

more later than sooner, but since i agreed that he cant activate the wings consciously (to some extend) it is useless to talk about this scenario...

As Accel is involved in a lot of incidents in AC you can't say for sure it couldn't happen sooner. And if you know it's useless to continue talking about this topic, why did even asked?