Talk:Kamijou Touma/Abilities and Powers/@comment-3969505-20140830211054/@comment-25093611-20140903180632

1) IT didn't redirected Fiamma's attack, it cut it in two (from vol 22:"In fact, the great swirl of light Fiamma had fired had split in two right in front of the boy and scattered to either side of him. Yet that attack had held such power that it could blow away a planet or recreate any of the legends in Christianity.").

Yeah, a superstrong big beam of light which could destroy a planet, you can call it cutting but touma did the same with IB in the gravito bomber arc. it wasas if his IB "vut" through the explosion while in fact he negated it.....

''I beg you, tell me that you are joking because I can't believe you are talking seriously. Just how much strong do you think a chalk pastel is? A good punch is moooore than enough to destroy it.''

Good, than the side story with the indian magicians, he touched a magical golden knife and it destroyed itself.....

''It seems you have no idea about how Ars Manga and IB work. Ars Manga only reproduce what its user thinks in the very moment they think it. Memory has nothing to do with Ars Magna. And the thought is just the print of what the user want to produce, the core of the spell are the students forced to use the Gregorian Chant replica, similarly to Stiyl's rune cards for Innocentius.''

Here from this Wiki:'' Ars Magna (黄金練成 (アルス＝マグナ) Ōgon Rensei?, lit. Imbued Gold) is Latin for Great Work. It is the spell in which alchemist would achieve their goal of simulation of the world inside the mind. With Ars Magna, they can bring out thoughts into the real world, essentially, making those who can accurately simulate or mold the real world would be able to control it.''

''you would also contradict (again) your statement about them never harming anyone (because erasing someone's memory is a harm, be aware of that) and above that I already showed you that neither IT nor the Dragons negated supernatural powers. ''

above me you see that ars magna simulats the world inside the mind of the magician, this mans hsi memorys are the core of the spell, the students was part of the preparation to turn his memory into the spells medium so that he can use ars magna...

BUT i already accepted my defeat with Othinus's example ^_^