Talk:Accelerator/@comment-91.67.13.50-20130813172914/@comment-11571396-20130826042130

^^Lol, what? Time to (go on a rant) break some fucked up illusions

Some things need to be fully understood before pushing every blame on PLOT ARMOR (weakest argument when criticizing a work of fiction along with Mary Sue accusations, by the way).

First, the magicians. Have you read works set in the Nasuverse or other works pertaining a magician? Or just played games or RPGs with a mage or magician? What do they all (the typical wizard type of character) have in common? They hit hard but have weak defense. They are fragile because they focus more on their magic. Be it in defensive magic, offensive magic or support magic, magicians tend to have weak bodies. And there's a reason why mages fall like flies to the likes of Kiritsugu as well. Similar to how all the magicians in Index aren't responding well fighting Touma I guess: they really simply weren't prepared for it. Depending on the setting, Anti-Magic might not be something that the power ability users come across often, and hence they're not used to their abilities not working.

Bringing me to my second point, the opponents' understanding of Imagine Breaker. Unless you know you are going to face Imagine Breaker at some point, or even better if that's your plan from the start, you're not going to be prepared for it. I mean, in Index's scenario, up until Vento, hardly anybody knew or expected the Imagine Breaker, so nobody were going to prepare for it. Even when they did know about it, anyone who consider themselves strong will underestimate him and think he's weak. do they even know his weakness or full grasp of his abilities? they only knew his right hand is special. Yes it can negate magic and supernatural abilities. But that's all there is too it. According to his records, he's a Level 0 and a stupid delinquent in class. No one will take seriously a guy like that. You could reply with 'Yeah, but in battle, you have to be prepared to quickly change strategies in case your original plan fail.' True that, but I'll say one thing: when you're in a real fight, it's very rare that you're willing to try something that you're not trained in or comfortable in performing. It's somewhat of a trope already that mages in general are creatures of habit. A surprise attack can easily kill him or use a darn gun and he's dead, but magicians and espers have their own style of fighting and pride in their powers, especially the strong ones. So the shock value of that habit being broken (read: crush my opponent with raw power alone as it has never failed me until now) is enough to render them helpless for the most part. Touma's opponents rely so much on their own powers that they keep using them even when it's very clear to them that it will NOT work on him. But hey, at least Accelerator tried to harm Touma indirectly, and more and more power users have wisened up and decided to think up countermeasures (cough*GREMLIN*cough).

Third, wait a minute, when was the last time Touma EVER solo'd the arc's boss? Vol1: Touma + Stiyl + Kanzaki VS Pen-dex Vol2: Touma + Stiyl VS Aureolus Izzard Vol3: Touma + Misaka Clones (Wind Turbine manipulation to buy time, otherwise Accelerator would have fried Touma with the Plasma as Touma was still lying down) VS Accelerator Vol4: Touma VS Tsuchimikado, and Touma lost. Vol5: Yamisaka offed himself via Index's Grimoires, Touma was only the straw that broke the camel's back Vol6: Touma + Anti-skill + Index + Kazakiri VS Sherry Cromwell Vol7: Touma + Stiyl VS Tatemiya, then later Touma + Stiyl + Index + Amakusa Church VS Agnese Forces Vol8: Touma didn't get into a fight. Vol9-10: Touma + Stiyl + Tsuchimikado VS Oriana Vol11: Touma + Agnese + Orsola VS Biagio Vol12-13: Touma + Artificial Heaven VS Vento (she was taking constant damage with the AIM field frakking her up) Face it, without help, Touma would not have been able to have beaten ANYONE. Just 'cause Touma's the one the camera focuses on and does the punching doesn't mean he's using PLOT ARMOR, or 'jesus level deus ex machina shit', whatever the hell that means. All wins are perfectly explainable.

Touma also freely admitted that his fighting style and skills are not suited to fight multiple opponents, opponents with superior speed, and opponents who can fly (not flying magicians, cause they apparently can't as St. Peter banished flight magic or something). Personal opinion, I think he's fine and he can't just force his way to victory against most foes, he's usually forced to fight by his enemies rules because of his power being reactive moreso than active. So it works well (most of the times) that Touma doesn't plan too far ahead and thinks on his feet.

I could get on a rant with Accelerator and Hamazura, but I'm dead tired, maybe next time. Only knows that, you're laughably wrong, and you should try rereading to the novels since you completely missed the point.