Talk:Accelerator (ability)/@comment-71.121.217.72-20150907155118/@comment-101.181.198.142-20160202093304

^ otosaka yuu cannot steal the abilities of the index-verse as they are not illnesses. As proven in several episodes of Charlotte, the abilities there are indeed illnesses. Again, this was proven by the fact that yuu's power could not steal those abilities that haven't broken out because the illness hasn't developed these abilities. In addition, when he used the power to make illnesses worse and made the abilities manifest, he was able to steal the power afterwards, further proving the fact that the abilities are illnesses and that he can only steal from them. Also, biologically speaking, if you take into account the fact that the abilities disappear as you enter adulthood, it proves that it is connected to the body's immune system as there are illnesses children are more prone to catching than adults.

As for Shiba, you have proven that he does indeed have the ability to beat accelerator, although if accelerator completely stops his entire body's movements completely (that means every individual particle stops moving and vibrating) he may be able to still maintain his body structure, albeit removing his ability to move (lol this didn't occur to me before). And because he has supreme control over vectors, if shiba tries to deconstruct his body in this state, he cannot do anything as accelerator is controlling his own vectors (this situation is only possible if accelerator does this beforehand). As vector manipulation requires little effort to control the movement of objects, this method is useful as a counter against deconstruction. Otherwise shiba is of course able to beat him.

As for saitama, I know that he has gotten himself into lots of situations. But as we don't know his true power, and the full extent of it, we cannot say for certain that he can beat accelerator like kihara can. As for the telekinetic you mentioned above, are you by chance referring to tatsumaki or that alien octopus person from the invasion? Either way, I don't remember either trying to reverse blood flow or anything like that. Only that in the anime, the octopus tried to create a black-hole like gravity field to crush him (although saitama was standing there normally).