Talk:Shirai Kuroko/@comment-24903257-20140505011046

in response to this addition to the trivia section:

'' When Kuroko's memories of Misaka Mikoto are erased during the Daihaseisai, Kuroko reacts to Mikoto's close contact, exclaiming, "I'm straight, I swear~!!" [21]  This implies that she was straight before she met Mikoto and became infatuated with her. '' you guys really need to stop misquoting and taking this scene out of context. actually, you guys really need to stop debating whether or not she's even gay.

i'll address the former point first. for starters, the full quote is this: http://i.imgur.com/oVRM6T7.jpg "P-please let me go! I'm straight, I swear~!!"

she's stuttering. that should be a pretty big indication of just how unconfident she feels in saying this.

furthermore, the full context of this quote is that she just saved mikoto's mother, and mikoto had just expressed her gratitude by telling her she trusted her to save her mom (kuroko at this point did not believe she knew mikoto as anything more than an upperclassman). i don't have the copy of the official manga, but here's the page from the fan translation: http://i.imgur.com/RjPS79C.png

on the next page, kuroko responds to this initially with shock, and then immediately becomes flustered: http://i.imgur.com/6Z7n41h.png

she is blushing, sweating, unable to focus clearly to the point where she forgets she needs to be careful with her body (having recently almost literally died). when mikoto attempts to help her after she displays clear signs of still being in pain, she reacts to her reasonable kindness with her "declaration" of being straight (or "not swinging that way," as the fan translation goes - i'm assuming it keeps more to the original text) - a completely unprovoked and unnecessary statement, something you often see when someone has realized that maybe they're NOT straight - even if they've gone their entire life thinking so.

we're raised in a society where being straight is the norm; people who aren't straight are encouraged or even downright forced to hide, subdue or ignore any romantic or sexual feelings that would otherwise label them as "queer" or non-heteronormative, as it's the safest route to follow. this is generally a universal thing; some places may not be as strict with enforcing these ideas overall, but there are always a few "bad eggs" and even just a few can cause reason to be fearful of being open.

the toaru universe isn't exactly the most realistic, so of course there's always room for suspension of disbelief - but most of the "normal" outside world we've seen throughout the series indicates it's all very similar to our world, including how people... well, just are, so chances are, kuroko was probably interested in girls from the start, but either 1) considering she's, like 13, likely had never actually experienced serious attraction to anyone whatsoever, 2) did not feel as strongly as she did for anyone else she may have had a crush on in the past, so was able to shake it off or 3) knew she liked girls before this point, but tried to ignore it for her own safety.

similarly (and here is where i address the latter point i made earlier), the likelihood of her simply being "mikotosexual" or "heterosexual but incidentally homosexual" is like, nada. zilch. goose eggs. even if she's never expressed SERIOUS attraction to anyone else in the series, she only ever refers to being with girls in theoretical situations in which she is not with mikoto - e.g. when she meets mikoto's mom, she states that she'll take "sisters, mother, or daughter" who are related to mikoto; in a parody novel written by kamachi himself (where the parody seems to lie within the ridiculousness of the situation, and the fact the characters are aware of and break the fourth wall, NOT the characters' personalities themselves), kuroko meets kanzaki and aiho, and this scene occurs:

''“I do not know. All I know is that I am an underclassmen character. I was given that part, so I must act accordingly. I can think up a reason later. I am a middle schooler in a high school, so even saying I am taking a school tour could work.”''

Shirai’s explanation was extremely businesslike, but she suddenly froze in place.

“?”

Kamijou looked over and saw Kanzaki Kaori and the tracksuit-wearing Yomikawa Aiho chatting.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">He turned back toward Shirai and saw that she was trembling.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">“(Such a divine onee-sama aura! Basking in their light is the true desire of an underclassman character! …Ahh. No! Y-you mustn’t, Shirai Kuroko. You have only one onee-sama! Oh, but…uuh, ahh! Calm down, Shirai Kuroko! Picture your true onee-sama and calm down!!)” <p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">i've also heard that she mentions going off with some american girls in the liberal arts city light novel with the intent of making mikoto jealous, though i haven't been able to find the alleged scene; however, even if it were or were not true, the fact that she's constantly put into situations where she indicates attraction solely to women doesn't seem much like a coincidence.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">not to mention she could very easily have fallen for touma after he saved her during the tree diagram remnant arc, following the pattern of, well, pretty much every other girl in the series. but she doesn't, and in fact, following the completion of the arc returns to regarding him with either cold indifference or downright (one-sided) rivalry.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">basically if kamachi had wanted us to think she's attracted to men in any way he would have done something about it by now in some way.

<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;line-height:19.200000762939453px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;">kuroko shirai is a massive lesbian.