Just so you know, I've started a new joint discussion thread in addition to the individual talk threads. I've also posted a number of tasks there which I need help with. If it isn't inconvenient or troublesome, could you lend me a hand, Herald?
Both series have a considerable number of episodes without full summaries (the episode previews/preview synopses have been used as placeholders). If it is OK, could you handle Accelerator first?
What I was thinking about with regards to placeholder summaries (in various places), I was thinking about the possibility of having several levels of them (in order to aid our efforts in overhauling the wiki while being on a tight schedule). For example, the first level placeholders would take the least amount of time/effort but be the least refined/covering (though enough to function as a placeholder), the subsequent level(s) would take more time/effort but would cover more and be more refined, eventually leading to the proper versions.
Placeholders seem like twice the effort for the same task, which seems like a waste. However, we can have someone speedread/watch a chapter or episode and have that person make a hasty summary of it while I deal with a more detailed synopsis later on.
Ah, I see. Magic/Science, metaphysics etc. articles then. Yeah, we're severely lagging in that aspect. I don't know if there's already enough people to get on with that. Maybe we should do a headcount of which users are knowledgeable enough about OT and NT that they can handle those info, even a basic understanding of it?
Corona-induced vacation means enough time to work on the wiki, although it also means slower internet since I'm not the only one at home. I think we'd have no problems on Railgun T articles at the moment.
With regards to Railgun T episode articles, no major problems though there are a number of grammatical errors in some of the additions. Some of the captions also need a bit of work - I intend to locate and tackle them systematically. On a similar note, though I'm not able to tackle it immediately, I'm keeping an eye on edits by User:Wannabebadboy89, which are quite messy and need a bit of revision.
Also, just so you know, I'm collecting translations/raws of the official website's episode summaries in Template:Shared Draft 78.
I've looked into his edits in Dark Matter and Railgun-related articles and deemed them to be in good faith. The only problem is the lack of references, which can be easily added by another user in the future. (He does not use templates, so I assume he isn't experienced in advanced Wikimarkup usage.) I personally suffer from the same issues as Wannabebadboy69, particularly making edits that do not have references, so yeah, it's not really intentional.
We can't judge user edits by their style in editing or what they do or don't do—the only thing that matters is whether their contributions do or do not disrupt the content of the wiki or the users.
By the way, if I have the time, I may be able to start on the synopses for the Toaru Kagaku no Accelerator episodes this week.
Thank you for looking at it, Herald, and sorry for bothering you with the matter. I thought that it was probably in good faith, though I wasn't completely certain - so this is another well-intentioned, unintentional headache. Couple of other things relating to the matter:
Aside from a lack of references, there have also been a fair number of grammatical/formatting errors and worked-in inaccurate assumptions. For the most part, I've mainly been trying to focus on my existing tasks (stuff needing attention) and making a note of places to tidy up later, however I had been wondering whether it was right to leave it for while (piling up). Do you reckon this was the right course of action?
I did briefly wonder whether I should establish contact with Wannabe to offer help and perhaps show them how to use references, however I wasn't sure whether I should do so yet and had some doubts regarding communication. Additionally, looking at other wikis, I wasn't sure whether the user checks their messages. What do you reckon - would you say it is too soon?
Wiki stuff aside, how are things on your end? I'm currently OK in terms of supplies and health (aside from lack of exercise and foot roll), but a few other things have been getting to me a bit.
Priorities: It's best to stick to your task list, as that is already organized beforehand. Having to deal with other things that would deviate from what's already planned is a source of headaches.
Correspondence: By contact, you mean Ursuul? Our main concern is the immense amount of in-universe info and I doubt he can help us with that. Although one thing he can help us with is the establishment of guides for proper editing, as well as a more solid Manual of Style.
Quarantine: I'm doing fine. Things aren't as gloomy as it seems and there are still some places where resources can be obtained. Of course, we don't know how long this would last, and school is also at the back of my mind. I just try to live life without too much worry, as it's not helpful at all.
Hello Marcus! I’m Alex, & I just thought to let you know that I’m the new Wiki Manager assigned to Toaru Majutsu no Index Wiki. This basically means that you can ask me for technical assistance, new extensions, pass along feedback to Fandom through me, or get any sort of Staff help you might need. Occasionally I’ll stop by to see how the Wiki is doing, but generally speaking I’ll mostly just be in the wings in case you need me 😃 Besdies on-Wiki, you can also contact me on Discord @ Ursuul#0575 if you want to talk there, or you can DM me in Slack. Cheers!
Hello, I'm Lucas and I'm a member of the Fandom Anime Content Team. Basically, it's my job to help anime focused wikis grow, and act as a resource to those communities.
I'm reaching out today to see if I can make a couple of changes to the Toaru Majutsu no Index wiki, with your permission. It wouldn't be anything major, just editing some of the more popular pages for readability and grammar, making sure every page belongs to at least one or two categories, making pages that present a lot of information easier to navagate, and other stuff like that.
Please let me know if it's alright for me to make these edits. I'm also more than happy to answer any questions you may have and help out with ongoing projects. Thanks for your time and have a great day.
Good to have someone from the Content Team here! Things are busy here now that A Certain Scientific Accelerator is airing, and any contributions from Fandom is very welcomed here.
I've already seen your post in this thread, and showed my willingness to cooperate with your plans for the wiki, but it would be great if there's a way to examine those plans first. Also, if it would be helpful, the wiki also has a Twitter account (@IndexWiki) that could be used for correspondence. Let me know if you need something there.
I'm more or less planning on just doing some general clean up work around the wiki. Making grammar and readability edits to popular pages, filling in dead links where applicable, that sort of thing. I'm also trying to get an Index focused promotional giveaway off the ground, but that's a bit up in the air.
So nothing major, as your wiki is in pretty great shape, but I still wanted to check in with admins before making any edits.
Thanks, and I hope this helps. Feel free to reach out with any other questions.
I also just followed the Index wiki's Twitter account. It looks good so far, but feel free to let me know if you're looking for any input on managing that account. I'm by no means an expert, but I have had to manage a few accounts simultaniously for previous jobs and am happy to share what I've learned.
With regards to that update on what's been going on, given that your last action prior to a few days ago was in December, do you want it from the start of the year? Concerning the most recent stuff though, following the conclusion of Index III, we've been doing Accelerator anime plans and NT22/R-SS3 article stuff. I overhauled the Did You Know selection in May and as you know, OH&S is working on an updated slider and quick link templates. In the past few weeks, I've also tried to regain some clarity that had been lost during a holiday break and attempted to reorganize my plans and drafts (though it's still rather messy). Not that long ago, Ollerus made article #3000.
Also, with regards to chapter/synopsis work, Auric Drake has been doing a good job going through the Railgun manga chapter articles. The OT22 chapter summaries have yet to be done. A considerable number of Accelerator chapters and the Necromancer Arc article itself are also lacking summaries but seeing as you didn't include among the ones you said you were considering, I'll consider it out of the question.
I did leave out Accelerator from the synopsis work, but working on it is fine, as it would also help with the hype for the anime. Finishing OT22 is also doable over the week. Honestly, I really would like to polish the World War III Arc article, but I don't think I'm ready for such a substantial part of the wiki yet.
On the topic of story arc articles though, how have they been going? Is it on priority or not? Also, I might be interested in working on Imaginary Fest, but that still depends on whether they would block non-Japanese IPs from playing the game or not.
As that was only a brief notification of recent events, would you like a more detailed recap of what's happened over the past half year, Herald? (I've recorded a lot of it in the progress logs but it is slightly disorganized and a lot to go through)
Just so you know, following discussions carried out during Index III, World War III and World War III Arc are now separate articles - the former is focused on the whole war itself, while the latter deals more with the events focused on in the story arc. For story arc articles in general, they've largely been on the backburner following Index III. I did do some work on the DRAGON Arc page while it was airing, however the anime was moving too quickly, so I had to move on to other areas, such as the Star of Bethlehem overhaul.
P.S. You've reminded me of a few game-related things - one on the backburner (our approach with iFes designs) and a few to go on there (details concerning the terminated games).
P.P.S. Just so you know, we're keeping the NT22R stuff on NT22's page for the time being (until we can be absolutely certain which R it is - Reverse or Rebirth).
Detailed recap: If it's not gonna impede with your ongoing editing work, please do.
Articles to be expanded: That's a lot of articles to cover. But since there's the Accelerator anime coming soon, I might end up working on the Accel manga summaries so that I can work on the Necromancer Arc.
Story Arcs: That's understandable.
By the way, I have a plan to just make a separate wiki out of Imaginary Fest, just to make it less messy on the main wiki. Unlike in Toji no Miko (my other project) where the main story and media don't take too much space, the main wiki with its 3,000 articles might be exposed to the chaos of covering an entire game. The Nasuverse Wiki did a similar thing with FGO, for example.
Lastly, I think it won't hurt if we would name the NT22R article as Toaru... Volume 22R. But I respect the decision to hold back until the R is clarified.
I'll compile the in-depth recap and get it to you as soon as I can, Herald.
A few minor things I should probably bring up before then:
I'm thinking about doing a sweep-search for images which are lacking descriptions/licensing information.
I've collected the screenshot images added for Index III in two temporary image logs.
Just so you know, one of the more recent users is a bit of Gunha enthusiast. They likely mean well, but I've had to lock Gunha's page a few times and revert a few edits elsewhere. I haven't spoken to them due to other problems getting in the way and not being able to find the right words. There haven't been any problems over the past few weeks though - this is just something to bear in mind rather than something which needs acting on right away.
We've got a bit of a column imbalance on the main page at the moment (not helped by long ads). I've tried to mitigate it by increasing the number of items displayed in the recent blog post template to 4 temporarily.
Already checked, and what it lacks are articles from the story arc after that. Aside from it, I don't see anything unusual. I might do a more thorough sweep by comparing it with the @wiki article list later.
As for those minor things:
I'll leave the sweep-search to you then.
I noticed that our "supplier" of screenshots almost captured the entire episode. Well, we wouldn't need all the screenshots - just enough to illustrate key events of the subject content.
Those kinds of edits are really tough to call. It's best to just double-check on any known info on a character and use that to see if the enthusiast is making any "mistakes".
The white space is a non-issue for me at the moment. Although, if it is necessary to minimize that, maybe it's time to post a new poll to replace the results of the Index III double poll?
One thing I thought I ought to bring up - there's been someone in the comments who might need some attention (anonymous at first then logged in), though I've been delayed in tackling the matter (due to other work and illness). Do you have any recommendations/suggestions as to what words and reasons to use when dealing with it?
P.S. NT22R 'R' and arc name poll currently open if you wish to cast a vote.
I've prepared 'User:Inept Bot' for the purpose (yet to be flagged as a Bot), though I haven't been able to connect it to AutoWikiBrowser as suggested in the how-to page. I'm going to try again in the morning, now that I'm back home.
P.S. Sorry about lack of recap.
P.P.S. How is your Imaginary Fest wiki project going?
Edit (23/10/19): The bot has been flagged as a bot now.
Backup purposes in light of the upcoming system transfer.
The main things I wanted to ask you about involve the actions of certain users and uncertainties as to how best to tackle them. It'll take a little time for me to get the details together for some of them, but below is the first and more pressing one:
A few days ago, while dealing with some inappropriate comments, I spotted some things which made me suspect that someone might be using multiple accounts as sock-puppets (in the comments of Accelerator, Misaka Misuzu, Misaka Worst and Misaka Tabigake). Along with Ollerus and Lord Reader, I've been keeping an eye on the accounts for further movements and evidence here. However, it came to my attention that there was another more indicative piece of evidence on the VS Battle wiki, although I wasn't fully sure if I'd be able to act on it given that it came from another wiki. Would you say that this is enough to act upon and if so, do you reckon we should act at once rather than wait for further actions?
Just so you know Herald, there have been a number of reverted infobox image additions over the past two days - the images being added in were of a somewhat unsuitable or unnecessary nature. There have also been a number of induced errors and a few cases of incorrect information.
I haven't spoken with the perpetrators yet due to having a large headache and not being in a state for discussion, however I've temporarily locked several pages/templates to prevent further conflict until contact is made. Any advice as to what words to use?
Those are "new" images provided for relatively older articles, I assume. Questionable choices too. The ones picked for Mugino and Worst aren't front-facing to be called a good replacement, and the additions to Silvercross Alpha were not necessarily Silvercross Alpha himself, but the Powered Suits he uses. To add, the Gunha image is definitely fanmade.
I think there has been a misconception regarding what can be used as a profile image, but to be fair we haven't polished our policies. Moving forward, it's a good call to have temporary lockdowns to control unneeded contributions.
Indeed. Out of the recently uploaded images, Worst's image is the only one remaining - I've already deleted the rest (hence the temporary image to show you what I'm talking about).
Another thing which we should probably consider when we get round to updating the policy guides is clarifying the practices regarding infobox gallery tabs, as some of the edits involved them (see the history logs for further details).
I've sent one of them a brief note about not adding fan edits of anime screenshots, but aside from that I haven't finished any messages yet (not sure how to put things). Quite tired so I'm going to bed now (I hope there isn't much trouble tomorrow - I'd quite like to get that recap finished).
By the way, do we have someone who has copies of the Yen Press releases of the light novels? We might be able to get the meanings of the Notarikon spells from there (but only if they actually translate them).
Ah. I see how this works now. If I raise a bot flag on my account, the entire account is treated like a bot and no edits will show on the recent changes. But the limited editing rate (1 edit/second) still holds for the bot.
So in other words, we'd need a separate account just for the bot for it to do its thing. Or separate bot accounts for separate scripts.
So my account getting a bot flag is the wrong approach; but this mass categorization is only semi-automatic (needs to be manually set up for a specific task).
I thought the mass categorization I attempted failed because of the limited editing rate but it turns out it was just me accidentally terminating the process partway through.
I don't know if I want to make a separate account for it. herald, do I have permission to try the mass categorization again knowing full well that it will drown the recent changes page in edits? Or would you like me to create a bot account?
It wasn't seamless though. I used one script to rename the category but it stopped after 500 images.
Afterwards I couldn't get a list of the remaining files in the category so I had to manually paste things into Excel and make the list there.
I then used another script with the generated list to replace the remaining categories. Bu then I screwed up and spelt Artwork as Atrowrk leading to 800+ files with a wrongly spelt category.
So I then ran the script again to fix the incorrect spelling.
With everything almost done, there strange errors where some files (about 10) were still listed in the incorrect category pages even after their category was fixed; I re-categorized them manually to be doubly sure they were correct.
Anyways, its all done. 1,311 images now correctly categorized.
With regards to your suggestion here, OH&S and I were talking about something along similar lines yesterday. Which brings me to my next question; do you mind if I send out a call for assistance and volunteers?
We need a considerable amount of help, but only enough that we can handle watching their progress. After all, those who frequent the wiki consist of both good-faith editors and some other users with questionable agendas.
There is another thing which I've thought about for a while but been a bit reluctant to ask about (I thought it might perhaps be a bit impertinent), but after assessing the circumstances, I'm going to ask.
Also, the news section was updated incorrectly and needs to be fixed.
Lastly, I would like to request my account to be added to the bot list (or whatever its called). There some mass categorization edits I need to make and it would be best for all if my account had a bot flag on it.