If it is OK with everyone, I'm planning to add the sweep aid lists to my monthly checklist and update it on the first of every month.
In the run-up to June 1st, I'm going to go through the images and rename some of them ones (though not all of them) which could do with renaming prior to the sweep aid list update. Does anyone know of any images which need renaming with this batch?
I carried out a sweep earlier to identify articles which had the category Article stubs added separately from the Stub template, and spotted a similar case with the category Pages requiring cleaning and the Cleanup template. I'll be carrying out a sweep with the bot shortly to identify the relevent pages using TrackTag. I also spotted a few articles which were wrongly placed in Category:Anime.
Everyone, I've assigned SD108 for the purpose of a brainstorming session between us over the next seven days, with the goal of recalling and recapping the hundreds of tasks we've got on the go and in the works. If it is OK, please list every task in progress or being planned that you can think of, in your respective sections on SD108.
I've done some reordering of the SS sections in the List of Light Novels and Other Literary Works page in order to account for the upcoming Gaiten Shoku Volume collections.
First, Index SS and Index SS2 have been moved to the OT section and placed after OT13 and OT16 respectively. It just makes sense for them to be there.
Second, a new section called SS Collections has been made for LN releases which are collections of the separately released side stories. Index SP, AA1, AA2 and other similar future LN volumes will be listed here. The chapter listing here has extra formatting to make the SS links stand out more.
Third, the Index SS and Railgun SS sections as well as side stories collected into an LN volume have been removed from the page. I have preemptively removed Railgun SS, Railgun SS2 and Cold Game in anticipation for AA2. If this needs correcting, it can be done later.
Fourth, a new SS Not Yet in Volume Format section has been made for the side stories released outside of normal publication by Dengeki Bunko and have not yet been collected into light novel format (Bunkobon). These are not separated by Index/Railgun and are listed in chronological order.
Just so people know, I've assigned SD111 to collecting the Textless Cover Images for light novel and manga volumes that we have on the wiki at the moment. The objective is to see what we've currently got, to check if there are any duplicates that have slipped by, and to double-check what naming patterns are currently in use. A minor request - please don't try to fill the holes by uploading new images.
Due to recent events and frustrations, I'm planning to carry out a major stopgap cleanup, Operation Interim, in the remaining period before Railgun T resumes, beginning July 1st. Will anyone be in a position then to assist?
I'm sure everyone already knows this but Accelerator manga concludes next month and the Astral Buddy manga is in the climax of its arc (not sure if the manga itself is ending).
The Index manga is heading into the Acqua of the Back Arc and the Railgun manga is in some sort of extended climax for the Jailbreaker Arc.
Come 2021, the franchise will be in some sort of new phase/era.
Not certain about most of it yet. Currently reviewing that and several other areas at once. Try to get things back in order.
There are a few images definitely known of at the moment, which would be helpful if they could be obtained - it is currently the first item on the Shared Image Tasklist, for pictures of Touma's phone timetable (which he scrolled down through) covering the opening and events 1 to 12 (there is already an image for events 13 to 20). It is in Index II Ep 13, somewhere between 12:00 and 14:00.
P.S. Thanks for remembering the Summary/Licensing/Category stuff with the Railgun T Ep13 images yesterday.
Indeed. Unfortunately, things have slowed down a bit too much on my end (in part due to records becoming tangled and a bit messy), so I'm currently trying to get my thoughts and notes back in order to resume progress at a decent rate.
Apparently, there is another notable user need to be monitor due to some wrong information inputed in the article. Anyway I heard that your progress has been slowed down due to certain circumstances, maybe I can lighten your load from images-related tasklist.
I haven't finished the Image Tasklist update yet, Kaysuami, but there are a couple of images which you could obtain in the meantime, if it isn't inconvenient; a cropped version of Accelerator's GT1 image (uploaded separately from the main image and to be used in the Board of Directors navbox (as the main one stretches it quite a bit)) and an image of a single, isolated graviton panel.
Thanks, Kaysuami. The image tasklist update isn't done yet, but there is another image which could be done with for the Alien page that was made yesterday - a cropped screenshot from Motto Marutto Railgun Episode 04 with the image of a grey alien (cropped so that it is just the alien and the space background, with none of the 177th Branch Office visible).
There is this information on Epiosde 14 is bothering me is that the dates of Daihaseisai contradicts itself, which does not match with what the episode said and with manga source material. Please look further into it thank you.
Edit:I have looked into Episode 14 with different translators. Apparently the one for Cruncyroll subititles that does not follow what the source material say, but fan translated does.
"According to this episode, the folk dance happened in the last day of Daihaseisai at nighttime. This however contradicts the prologue of Index Volume 11, where Touma narrated during daytime on the last day of the festival the forced dance with Mikoto, meaning it occured before the last day. The manga does not specify on what day the folk dance occurred." This information from Episode 14 Trivia page is not quite right.
If it is OK Kaysuami, could you gather all of the images currently used in navbox templates in SD94 (layout instructions present there)? Also, please don't add or switch any images in the navboxes themselves while doing so. The objective of this exercise is to get a clear overview of the current navbox image situation.
I'm currently focusing all efforts on getting the Daihaseisai overhaul done before Friday. I'll let you know if any additional images are needed for it.
Edit: The edit you carried out to SD94 at 13:19 is fine, Kaysuami.
Saw it earlier. Currently focused on trying to get the overhaul done before Ep15 airs.
There are a few additional Daihaseisai-related images which you can look for (on/off-wiki) before then if it is possible. If not, then never mind. They are as follows: an image illustrating a typical automated bus (from outside, no explosion), the opposing Wrench Pole team preparing to fire their abilities, an image illustrating the Daihaseisai committee arm band, and an image illustrating the white/red team (perhaps one with the headband or sash indicating one of the two).
You might wanna check up on this. This wiki is severely understaffed, and the admins are swamped with work. They talked about this in another thread before but the topic eventually shifted to content revisions.
I don't see any problems with affiliating with the Gate Wiki. If you are still OK with it, Sztama927, we can proceed with the wiki affiliation. With regards to our wordmark, I recommend the version of File:Wiki-wordmark.png from September 16th 2019.
Following on from the previous thread, this thread is for discussion, brainstorming and joint-planning on the wiki from the start of 2020 onwards. With Railgun T beginning on January 10th and Souyaku beginning on February 10th, we still have much to do...
See here for the joint recap from two weeks ago covering the previous six months.
Edit: Have just updated and transferred the overview table for the Shared Drafts to its own template.
There are a number of tasks in the leadup to Railgun T for which I'm in need of assistance/feedback, some of which have Shared Drafts assigned to them and any help with which would be greatly appreciated:
For the start of Railgun T, I was thinking of updating to a new Featured Article and have been considering possibilities (some currently listed with rough notes in SD56) - any thoughts/suggestions on the matter?
SD28 is being used for a Railgun T Shared Tasklist - I need urgent help in assembling a list of subject articles connected (in a similar manner to the ones I've previously done for Index III and Accelerator), as well as a list of tasks we need to carry out.
SD50 has been assigned for collecting of uploaded Railgun T images once the anime begins. SD52-55 have been assigned to collecting the images which are already on the wiki for some of the more recent manga arcs (SD52 for the Dream Ranker Arc, SD53 for the Jailbreaker Arc, SD54 for the Nectar Arc and SD55 for Astral Buddy). Could someone help me with assembling the images currently on the wiki on there so we know what we've currently got?
SD33, SD34, SD35 have been assigned for tracking purposes - the idea is to log the progress/current status of the sub-sections on articles for episodes and chapters. At present, the links have not been fully assembled/sorted, and the tables have not been fully implemented. Can anyone see any room of improvement with the tables? Also, if anyone has a moment once the tables are in operation, could they help in assembling the information?
Can anyone think of any tasks which we can give to the Wiki Manager to lighten the load?
Note: An article list is being assembled in SD57 to assist with bot sweeps.
More to come
Just so it is known, I'm planning to restart the Image Information Survey sweeps as soon as possible, as it will be necessary to finish them before certain other projects are initiated.
Yes, it is assembling the ones we've already got on the wiki for those particular arcs. I know you tend to be more for uploading new images, Kaysuami, but would you be OK with tackling this particular task?
I was attempting to gather all of the images that are already on the wiki for certain recent manga story arcs, so we have a clear idea of what we already have for them. They are being assembled in galleries on several of the Shared Drafts:
Just so it is known, Ollerus and I are currently working on revisions to the Daihaseisai's articles on the assumption that another article won't be chosen to be featured first.
There is another task from earlier which I need additional assistance with. Shared Draft 28 is being used for a Railgun T Shared Tasklist - I need help in assembling a list of subject articles connected (in a similar manner to the ones I've previously done for Index III and Accelerator), as well as a list of tasks we need to carry out.
Edit: OH&S has also voiced support for featuring the Daihaseisai article.
One day to Railgun T Episode 1. Since we know roughly what it will be covering, I'll begin assembling a list of images to watch out for in Template:Shared Draft 25. When new Railgun T images are uploaded, we'll also be gathering them in Template:Shared Draft 50.
With regards to Souyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Volume 01, this might be a bit early, but given the cover image and short synopsis, I'm planning to use Christmas Arc for the initial arc name placeholder when we do our initial work on it. There might be a change of procedure with the plan thread this time, given that there are plans on Community Central for the retirement of the Forums.
Edit: The side-story accompanying Railgun T is going to focus on Agnese.
Edit (15/01/2020): As you may have seen from the stream yesterday, Nephthys and Niang-Niang are going to be involved in part of the next Imaginary Fest event (NT10-based). Depending on whether the section is voiced or not (as the NT8 Epilogue bit was), we might find out who is going to be voicing them.
Said user is under observation. Now that I've completed the large-scale task which was taking up most of my time and effort during the last week or so, and I've had a short time to rest, I can now move to tackle the matter.
By the way, what is your current status, Kaysuami?
Well, I will still provide images for upcoming anime and probably update the Daihasei Festival Arc(Railgun) story arc since upcoming anime has confimed that it will be adapted. Still not sure if it will adapt Dream Ranker or anime original story arc.
Well, I don't think any of us are sure about the last bit.
If it isn't too much trouble, Kaysuami, can I make a small request for when Railgun T starts - when you add new images to the wiki for it, could you also put them in the gallery which will be created in Template:Shared Draft 50?
Well, I will still provide images for upcoming anime and probably update the Daihasei Festival Arc(Railgun) story arc since upcoming anime has confimed that it will be adapted. Still not sure if it will adapt Dream Ranker or anime original story arc.
This tweet might indicate that it won't be original.
“Will there be original episodes in the upcoming Railgun T?”
“S1 & S2 is different, there’s enough material for S3”
Kinda. I have some free time but I wanted to use it to do some quick edits before having to actually work in 40 mintutes. If you have something to ask of me, don't expect an answer till two hours from now.
Ok, what are the edits that are causing concern? The edit conflict in Othinus' story arc seems unnecessary given that the template actually exists. (Unless he added the link to the template before making the template itself.)
That particular pair of templates was made and placed by anon A125 a few years ago. I have to say, I'm not particularly keen on it.
There are multiple edits within the list, however I don't have a fully isolated log at hand as I was focusing on finishing that recap (speaking of which, have you read the thing Herald?). I have made a temporary list of all of the articles which they've made edits to so far, but the individual edits haven't been isolated.
Edit: Darkmonger's just done another one of those questionable image edits, Herald - this one for Kihara Kagun. It's late and my computer is acting up again, so if it isn't too much trouble, I'll leave this one to you.
Hey there! I just thought to introduce myself; I’m Alex, the new Wiki Manager assigned to Toaru Majutsu no Index Wiki. A Wiki Manager is a contractor tasked with looking after specific Wikis, helping them grow & assisting their Admins. If you ever need code help, moderation or content assistance, or just have questions, I’m happy to assist you :) Occasionally I’ll drop in to see how things are going, but otherwise you can contact me on my Wall anytime you like. Have a good day!
Just so you know, Ursuul, both are returning after a time away, so I've been compiling an extensive recap to put them in the picture as to what's been going on here in their absence. Annoyingly, I've been interrupted a number of times while doing so, but I intend to complete it as soon as possible. Once we're all up to speed, we should have a clearer idea of where we will need your help the most.
The possibility which I was thinking about was some form of code or mechanism which would automatically search for a specific field in specific templates on specific article, and extract the values inputted for this field in the templates on those pages, to compile a list of the values in the specified field for all of the searched pages (e.g. JAP/ENG Voice in the Character Infobox to gather information to produce a list of which voice actor voices which characters). If possible, this would save a fair amount of time taken in manually going through a large number of pages to compile certain lists for supporting article work - you could set a bot to gather the information while you focus on another task.
I carried out some searches on the Dev wiki to see if there were any pre-existing codes or combinations of them which could be used for this purpose, but I didn't have any success. When I discussed it with OH&S earlier, he wasn't sure how one would be able to implement it on the wiki. Although it would save a fair amount of time, it isn't vital, so if it is not possible or would be too much trouble, I'll abandon the idea and move on. However, I thought I should check first to see whether there was a feasible way to accomplish it or not.
This sounds like something that would have to be accomplished via Semantic MediaWiki, which is a legacy extension not granted anymore, or perhaps via some bot framework hosted with cloud computing to regularly run a routine to grab those values & update the page. Fandom is definitely aware of the issue of a lack of data tools, but I’ll probably have to ask around for the best solution (if any). Will get back to you when I have answers.
What I had originally in mind was something which could be given values and set to run (either by main or bot account), in a manner similar to MassEdit, and then output results. The resulting list would then be used to support the article updates and other work.
In the case of the voice actor example mentioned earlier, what I had in mind was something like this. At present, the list of voice actors is slightly out of date. However, people have added some of them to the Character Infoboxes on the respective character articles, though it isn't necessarily known which and how many. It would take time to go through them and assemble the information, and there are a lot of other tasks which need that time. In this case, with what was originally in mind, the possible procedure may have be something like this:
Set the mechanism to search for fields "JAP Voice" and/or "ENG Voice" from template "Character Infobox". Set to search within the range of character articles (e.g. obtained from the media articles or via Special:WhatLinksHere due to the links formed by the references).
Initiate the mechanism. While you carry out another task, it searches through the designated articles for the designated template (Character Infobox), and searches for the designated field within that template (JAP Voice/ENG Voice). If it finds the field used within the template, it extracts the value inputted into that field and logs the result in some form (e.g. "ENG Voice" for "Esther Rosenthal" is "Amber Lee Connors"), either in the function's output box (which can then be copied and pasted) or deposited in a designated location.
Once the mechanism has completed its operation, all of the associated values would be assembled in a convenient list, which could then be used to update the article. In a similar manner, through error messages or absences from the list, it would be possible to see which articles are lacking values for this particular field in their templates.
Another possible task would be confirming pre-existing conventions so that they can be made clearer in updates to the Manual of Style and similar pages, or to find errors and deviations which may have slipped through the net.
This is a rough description of what I originally had in mind, though I might have missed a few bits. It's getting late over here, so this'll have to do for tonight. Hope it is sufficient enough to help and sorry if it isn't conveyed clearly enough. Thank you for taking the time to look into the possibility, Ursuul.
Got back from Fandom, a script-based method which you describe is probably out of the question due to varied input resulting in malformed output. What we can do is attempt to produce the table purely via DPL on the List of voice actors article as you describe, although I cannot guarantee success & the earliest I could attempt such a thing would be Wednesday next week, possibly later. Is that OK?
I had a feeling that it would not be possible. I'm not too familiar with DPL, but I will read up on it to see what it can do. Given the overall circumstances however, I think it would probably be best to leave the voice actor table as it is for now and move on. Sorry for taking up your time on this minor matter, Ursuul.
One other minor thing I've thought about which I assume would not be possible is a script mechanism for transcribing history logs and the like. Would I be right in assuming this?
Sorry for the delay, Ursuul. I've been having a few problems on my end (computer and others).
With regards to the transcribing script mechanism mentioned earlier, I don't think it is likely to be possible but I thought I should check my assumption just to be sure. It is not urgent or vital and it is perfectly possible to manage without, though it is something which might save a little time on certain activities.
I should explain what I've previously been doing so you have an idea of how such a thing might be used. Although I've kept a number of lists in the past, I started keeping an overall wiki activity log late last year, in order to help me keep track of stuff going on across the wiki, as I was having trouble keeping track and remembering everything. I hoped that keeping a wiki activity log would help me in keeping track of ongoing activity, actions which need adjustment, monitoring or counter-action, progress made etc. It has had somewhat mixed success - while it has helped to keep track of certain things, it has taken a fair amount of time to maintain, and I've had trouble managing it and keeping it up-to-date. I've also compiled other more specialized lists gearing towards supporting specific tasks and activities.
The wiki activity log has been written using extracts from Special:RecentChanges as a starting base (from a set time period, extracted via regular copy/paste), placed beneath the date on the sandbox page. These initial bases are then trimmed down so the unnecessary stuff is removed (usually reducing the stuff for the edits to article, editor, time and any edit summary notes), and then sorted into the form of a bullet point list (with info condensed and notes added regarding the nature of the edit(s) and possible supplementary edits when necessary).
The main history log which is being transcribed as a base is Special:RecentChanges (within a set time/edit number frame), though the page histories (action?history) and other Special pages (e.g. Special:NewPages, Special:ListFiles, Special:Log/X, Special:WhatLinksHere, Special:Unused/UncategorizedFiles and others) have been used on occasion for other specific lists.
The main thing I wished to check was whether my assumption, that a script mechanism for transcribing logs probably wasn't possible, was right.
It might very well be possible, for example my old bot was used to make logs of Special:Chat for a couple years, but it required external hosting to maintain & the use of someone else’s pre-made Ruby framework that I didn’t fully understand. What you’re asking for seems even more thorough than that, stripping down content for only select items you want for your log, so I think it’d require a prohibitive amount of work to set such a thing up (assuming that it definitely is possible, which it potentially might not be). Additionally, with the MediaWiki upgrade imminent, the radical changes to RecentChanges’ coding would probably break the mechanism shortly after it was created.
The operation which I've been planning to carry out is part of something I'm calling the Image Information Survey.
Basically, there are currently a fair number of images which are lacking information (e.g. Description, Source, Licensing etc) at the moment, due to people in the past neglecting to add the information. This is something which I've been intending to tackle for a while and there are a number of potential plans which will rely on the relevant images having this information. However, there isn't a list of the images which are lacking them and it would take a considerable amount of time to go through over 9000 of them. Therefore, I've been planning to carry out a bot operation to go through the images and identify the ones which need work done.
I'm not all that good at coding and external bot operation programs, so what I've devised is a series of sweeps using the MassEdit function, to be carried out by the bot account on a secondary unit. By following this series of improvised steps, I'm hoping to have the bot go through batches of images, get the existing information into a common framework, identify the areas where information is lacking and tag them so that a convenient list is produced for subsequent work, while I carry out work in other areas at the same time. My hope is that this will save a bit of time and make subsequent work a little easier.
I had the bot carry out work on a test batch (while monitoring) in early November to test the procedure and see if there were any problems with it. It seemed to work well for the most part, though there were a few oversights and I identified various areas which needed improvement. Unfortunately, I was interrupted several times while doing so and I did not make a particularly clear note of my observations/thoughts, so I ended up losing track of some of the information when I came back to the task later and had to find it all over again.
Once I've cleaned things up a bit and made the relevant adjustments to the procedure, I intend to have the bot work through the remaining twenty-seven or so batches.
Some of them are not going particularly smoothly at the moment. The two month delay for the anime has bought a little more time, but there is still a lot to be done and some of the ongoing projects (of which there are a lot) have stalled or derailed due to various circumstances.
I'm currently trying to recover, get a clear grasp of where everything is, and get things back on track. I'm also preparing for a cleaning session on some of the older articles, not a full overhaul but enough for a stopgap measure. I'm planning to start Operation Interim on July 1st.
I am sorry to hear of your troubles, if I could give you some advice I would say that you may not actually have to complete everything by the time the anime comes. They usually portend a lot of users arriving to the Wiki which you may be able to harness to help get things done. Special:Community/MediaWiki:Community-to-do-list is a good place to list things that users can do to help, & when new folks arrive you can point them there as a springboard to get new editors to dive in to current & future projects.