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  • I'm currentlt still reading the novels, but the illustrations mainly the one with the multiple heads makes me wonder if imagine Breaker isn't one ability but several mainly different levels or forms of negation. Touma thinks that the dragon that could win againt the World Rejector couldn't be the same as the one that lost to Othinus a Magic God a being that  could be easily erased by World Rejector. (In Shinyaku Toaru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Volume 15) 

    Index mentions the it's able to negate God's blessings and the red string of fate. But he can't negate the Power of the World. If find the strange because he can negate luck and the red string. Which are natural things or at least thats what I'm assuming

    P.S. Sorry for an grammar problems

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    • The multiple dragon heads appear in the Railgun manga (specifically, Chapter 69), not in Index. Interesting theory, though.

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    • "If find the strange because he can negate luck and the red string. Which are natural things or at least thats what I'm assuming "

      It's not actually clear if he can negate those things, both were speculation by Index instead of verified fact.

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    • According to the Phase page, the sparks produced by phase collisions can be considered luck, and IB can protect against these to some extent. Though there is indeed no evidence for a red string of fate.

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    • I will say a simple fact.

      If you have read New Testament 18 then you would find the conversation between Aleister Crowley and Kamijou Touma where the former speaks to the latter about the origin of Imagine Breaker and Academy City.

      Imagine Breaker represents all the hopes and dreams of the magicians who wish to return or revert back to the Original World or Phase. It is basically a failsafe measure.

      Like for example, your computer is going through a period of slow down. Thus of course you want to revert your computer systems to an earlier state. So you specify the date and time based upon which your computer would be reset to an earlier period of state.

      Just like that the Imagine Breaker works to revert back the state of the World or a Phase to an earlier format.

      The negation caused by Imagine Breaker when it comes into contact with the supernatural like the Esper Powers and the Magical Powers is actually it's side effect and not it's original purpose.

      So the entire series is based on the side effect caused by the Imagine Breaker's host i.e. Kamijou Touma.

      Also Imagine Breaker did not specifically choose Kamijou Touma. Throughout history the Imagine Breaker kept changing it's host between either living things (like the Saint before Kamijou Touma who was it's previous host) to non living things like a hand mirror of a staff.

      Thus it randomly ended up in Kamijou Touma's right hand. But it was an absolute power whose actual usage is still not mentioned in the story. But Terra of the Left and Aleister Crowley did know specific secrets along with Ollerus and Othinus. Therefore Aleister Crowley wanted the Imagine Breaker into his possession.

      How? He specifically knew where the next host will be born (in Japan) and his name (Kamijou Touma) and his personality (saving people to bring a smile), based upon these he created Academy City.

      If Touma-kun was a boxer then Academy City would be creating boxers.

      If Touma-kun was an Athlete then Academy City would be creating Athletes.

      If Toum-kun was a cook then Academy City would host cooking competitions.

      But here Touma-kun uses his fists to save people and thus Academy City created Espers.

      So if we observe everything as Gods we get to know that all kinds of Incidents like the Sisters, Clone Dolly, Level 6 Shift, the Level 5s', Battle Royale, Roman Catholic, World War III, Gremlin, World Rejector and all other conflicts occured because of Kamijou Touma himself.

      Though not his fault but his naive thinking of what his actions would do in the future led to the other powers take advantage of him and create these incidents. So he is not to be blamed for these. The Imagine Breaker is what many people need but the host is the one who truly represents Imagine Breaker.

      Kamijou Touma is the one who represents Imagine Breaker. Even without Imagine Breaker he would still fight. (Like in New Testament 22) So this is Imagine Breaker's significance.

      ...

      Now about the dragons...

      One Dragon Head comes out when facing a magician. (fighting Aureolus Izzard)

      Eight Dragon Heads comes out when facing a esper power at borderline Level 6. (fighting Misaka Mikoto)

      (Read the Railgun Manga Chapter 69)

      Some red colured polygon structures comes out in New Testament 22 ending even I do not have any idea of.

      Thus our best way to get accurate information is to kidnap 'Kazuma Kamachi' and force him to do three things which I want... whether he likes it or not.

      1. The Secrets of his Right Hand (Everything including Imagine Breaker and the Dragons)

      2. His Past Story with 'Kumokawa Seria' and 'Mitsuari Ayu'. (Shokuhou Misaki's story was shown in NT 11)

      3. Continue 'Toaru Majutsu no Index' light novels for another 15 years. Or else...

      ...

      So this is my Answer to your Question.

      - By 'Rajarshi Sarkar'

      ...

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    • It's still not clear exactly Imagine Breaker is. In NT22, even Coronzon admits to not fully understanding how it works. The use of Imagine Breaker to return the world to a previous state only confirms that it can be used in this way, not that this is its intended purpose.

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    • I know that it is still not clear what Imagine Breaker is.

      Read my article again and you will notice a line stating:

      'Thus it randomly ended up in Kamijou Touma's right hand. But it was an absolute power whose actual usage is still not mentioned in the story.'

      See? I already wrote down the fact that Imagine Breaker's absolute power is still not mentioned in the story.

      Also I saw your pattern of answering Questions.

      You are a jealous person aren't you?

      The moment someone else gives a higher and better defined answer than yours you suddenly get confrontational and post a stupid response to it.

      You just want your face to be stuck in the forum page is not it?

      Still just a kid.

      No need to respond to this anymore.

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    • I'm sorry, I wasn't intending to be confrontational. I didn't see that part in your earlier post.

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    • I said no need to respond.

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    • dragons is baseed  in apocalipsis

      The Woman and the Dragon

      1A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days.

      Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. But he was not strong enough, and they lost their place in heaven. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

      10 Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:

      “Now have come the salvation and the power
      and the kingdom of our God,
      and the authority of his Messiah.
      For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
      who accuses them before our God day and night,
      has been hurled down. 11 They triumphed over him
      by the blood of the Lamb
      and by the word of their testimony;
      they did not love their lives so much
      as to shrink from death. 12 Therefore rejoice, you heavens
      and you who dwell in them!
      But woe to the earth and the sea,
      because the devil has gone down to you!
      He is filled with fury,
      because he knows that his time is short.”

      13 When the dragon saw that he had been hurled to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she might fly to the place prepared for her in the wilderness, where she would be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent’s reach. 15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.

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    • Maybe touma power refrence to "ouroboros"

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    • The multiple dragon heads may remamber the dragon from the book of Apocalipse, but 8 dragon heads came out from Touma's arm, and the dragon from the Apocalipse have seven heads, with means that thouse dragons probablly refere to something else.

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    • I think that the dragon heads are the true form of imagine breaker.

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    • I thought the revival of this thread would be about the recent reveals by Ogino Kentarou, but no, it's just lame.

      Anyway. From Ogino Kentarou on Twitter:

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    • Rajarshi Sarkar wrote: I said no need to respond.

      Just read this and youre a actual fucking sad piece of shit

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    • My question is how powerful are these dragons. Is The One eyed Cobra's Rainstorm ability solely that or is more along the lines Weather control or Water Manipulation. The extent of these rains abilities my be reveled in the Jailbreaker arc of Railgun.

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    • In my opinion, the dragons may or may not be related with Imagine Breaker. As we can see how different dragons functioned and some are not even related with how Imagine Breaker works. Then again, if the dragons are not related with Imagine Breaker, can they can be considered an esper's ability? Can Touma be evaluated again based on these dragons?

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    • Why would dragons, a clear creature from the magic side, be an esper ability?

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    • I don't know man, many powers in this anime doesn't look very scientific to me.

      But yeah you are right.

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    • Some research about dragons : 

      Unknown to the lay Christian, whose idea of what ALL angels look like is based on Catholic iconography: humanlike with wings (archangels) or children with wings (cherubim), the word "SERAPHIM" in the original Hebrew and Greek means literally "fiery serpent", Jewish Rabbis translated the word Seraphim to Drakones (δράκονες "serpents"), identifiying dragons as heavenly creatures whose job was to consume the wicked.  Cherubim and Seraphim are actually different from the messenger angels who are the human-like servants of the Lord.

      The throne of the almighty God is supposed to be guarded by choirs of Seraphim, translated as Fiery Serpents in Hebrew or probably sacred six-winged holy dragons that sing the song of Creation as they circle the Holy Throne of God.

      the word seraph Akyəst can also be translated to "dragon" or "an alternate term for Hell" ,In one of the paragraphs, it stated that a seraph performed "an act of ritual purification", cleansing oneself prior to worshipping a deity ( that was for seraph meaning) . Now, for the actual dragons, or rather water serpents mentioned as hydras. They appeared mostly for praising God.

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    • Now that I look at the ability that Touma has, does the author attempt to make Touma having a ability related to the both side?

      From what we see, Touma now has the power similar to the magic side which is the dragon, although it may be on the magic side, but its ability can be related to esper side (psychological attack, poison, etc) as well. Finally an imagine breaker to top it off.

      Correct me if I am wrong.

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    • I have the same idea though don't know how he's power could do this but i think he would be the one who will bring the balance between magic and scinece side . 

      One of the intresting things about the series that acts like a bridge is the most of the villains from the  both sides are trying to act like a god , hunger for power , forcing their ideology on everyone or trying to change the world in the way they want

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    • just like real life.

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    • A FANDOM user
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